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True or False? Herbs and spices cause water retention? My 14 Day Experiment ...

Okay I learned last night that herbs and spices may cause water retention. I've decided to take a week off from eating them to see if it's true.

I weighed myself this morning: 118.6lbs.

I will weigh myself daily until the week is over and post it here.

I'm on the "no greens plan" for the next week because without herbs and spices I have ZERO interest in eating them!

Let's see what happens ...

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Comment by Mary Elizabeth on July 17, 2010 at 2:19pm
have you ever tryed green smoothies. i find it soo much easier to eat the adequate amount of greens i need with them. you can add as much fruit as you like until you find the taste to be good enough. i usually do 1 orange, 1apple and 1 banana and as many greens i can fit into my blender after that. i just think it could be bad to cut all greens out of your diet. very interesting subject btw. good luck!
Comment by Annalise Jones on July 17, 2010 at 1:11pm
>Maybe I'll try again in the future but really I could be eating far worse than a small amount of condiments ...

Like COOKED FOOD. <

Actually I'm finding in my experience, as a Food Addict, that plain cooked foods are way safer than condiments. Now, this is in terms of food addiction, not for physical health. I eat baked potato once in a while and have no problem going back to 80/10/10 next day. But if I eat condiment, I crave it so bad the next day. I am becoming more and more convinced that condiments are the true drugs in the food world
Comment by cbs on July 17, 2010 at 12:43pm
Hi Karmyn,
I get weighed regularly and have had changes in body weight due to water only I've found out.

I'm coming from a restrictive eating background. What I found is at first when I increased my carb calories is I gained water/glycogen weight went up 4 lbs. But it was more my body was thinking it was starving and the fact that my colon is holding onto things due to lack of use. Then its slowly been moving faster and I lost most that weight actually including eating MORE.

I've experimented with no salt, touch of salt and vegetable broth cravings and found that actually no/touch of salt had little effect on the scale. More a feeling of being swollen. But no dramatic changes, more so of a 1-2 lbs which might be significant due to my low weight.

The biggest weight changes still tend to be with more raw vegetables because I dont digest them properly and I get extreme bloating and retention with them. Eventually they digest and my weight goes down within a few days. I dont get much gain with green juices though so I figure this is a digestion issue.

I dont use other condiments so I cant comment on adding/taking them away. I feel steamed foods tend to hold onto water too but I dont have any weight facts that I can attest to yet.
Comment by Annalise Jones on July 17, 2010 at 12:15pm
sorry if this was asked already (didn't read through the zillion comments) but other than water retention, what else did you monitor in regard to consuming spices? I have verified that they are stimulants, in that it is more difficult for me to sleep and they seriously lead to cravings the next day. The clear way to know if something is a stimulant is to observe how TIRED you are when you STOP eating them (the body now catching up on nerve energy) -- so did you find this to be true in your experience?
Comment by Karmyn on April 10, 2010 at 12:54am
Hi Freelee,

I prefer eating meals but I was so busy Wednesday that I just grabbed what was there!

I normally eat a lot more fruit but it there wasn't much fruit in the house I was interested in eating.

We went shopping and bought plenty of fruit.

I ended up quitting the experiment and I just wrote why here:
http://karmynmalone.com/?p=592

Maybe I'll try again in the future but really I could be eating far worse than a small amount of condiments ...

Like COOKED FOOD.
Comment by TheBananaGirl on April 9, 2010 at 10:03am
Hey just had to add...

Karmyn I must say this test may be a little skewed because of the following....

Esmee brought up a great point...
Do carbs cause a certain amount of normal healthy water retention (storage)? If you are low on calories (carbs) would this cause you to lose water weight?
- Bingo Esmee, our bodies hold I believe 3gms of water for every gram of carbohydrates we consume hence when we are undercarbed we lose water weight.

If prior to doing this experiment you were undercarbed hence carrying less water weight (which i believe is the case due to eating less fruit and more stews) then if you increase your carbohydrate calories you will also increase your overall water weight in your body (which isn't a bad thing) due to the above explanation, so this must be kept in mind if we want to be really objective with this experiment.

Im glad you are doing this though :)
Comment by TheBananaGirl on April 9, 2010 at 9:38am
Well there you go you've lost 600gms! ;-DD This would be due to only having 600cals, my guess is you've lost some water weight from lack of carbs. There was really hardly any carbs in your 600cals and this would've also contributed to your impaired ability to sleep...fasting patients are notoriously bad sleepers.

Thanks for the update Karmyn, yeh I know what you mean about the dogs barking situation! The dogs we are looking after at the moment are gorgeous creatures but one tends to have this high pitched bark which it sometimes lets rip at 1am in the morning :-)

On the calorie front, you really do need to eat more than 600 cals! I would suggest you have less meals and bigger ones, like 3-4 big ones a day (like of 600cals each!), don't restrict your fruit intake just go for it! I would go looney if I only had that many cals. Now you've got mangoes i'm sure you can increase your fruit intake significantly.

Do carbs cause a certain amount of normal healthy water retention (storage)? If you are low on calories (carbs) would this cause you to lose water weight?
- Bingo Esmee, our bodies hold I believe 3gms of water for every gram of carbohydrates we consume hence when we are undercarbed we lose water weight.


Look forward to your next entry :-)

p.s- Hey can you include water intake too?

Lovefreelee
Comment by hannah on April 9, 2010 at 7:45am
cat moon, i think the natural hygiene perspective is that things that are toxic to out bodies cause water retention (you know, the solution to pollution is dilution?) so that would indicate that the spices are toxic.
Comment by Esmée La Fleur on April 9, 2010 at 5:20am
Do carbs cause a certain amount of normal healthy water retention (storage)? If you are low on calories (carbs) would this cause you to lose water weight?
Comment by Cat Moon on April 9, 2010 at 4:02am
Interesting! Is water retention a bad thing for our bodies? Just curious, I haven't read the 801010 book yet.

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