We've recently ticked over at 20,000 members here at 30Bad. I will come back to that shortly.
I haven't been on here much due to work, but I just wanted to pop in to comment on the recent "Pioneer-Gate" thing swirling around the Woodstock Fruit Festival.
WFF has always been very prominently featured here. ANd... People have always complained of what they claimed was the "dogmatic, constrictive, nature of 30Bad version of 801010" here.
Contrary to some people's suppositions, Harley and Free HAVE been listening to people, and as they have always stated, the primary goal has been to help people become more healthy. The reason they have such strict guidelines here has always been to cut out the stuff that tends to sidetrack and derail people on the track to becoming healthy, period. They have been maligned and raked over the coals for that. Maybe the delivery is not always appreciated, I have even told Harley I thought his "tough-love" approach to some people has not always been the best option IMO. I just don't like that method at all personally. But different people respond to different approaches. Anyway, helping people succeed has always been what they have been going for.
So more recent attempts to "meet people where they are" and having a version of an 801010 type of eating that can actually be done have led to a raw till 4 program with support in the cooked sub forum, as well as other attempts to "do the best with what you have" options. Always pointing out that fuel number one is fresh, ripe, organic fuit and veggies. But cognizant that it cannot always be done, in all climates, at all income levels, or by all people. Sometimes the big step to 100% RV proves too large for some people.
So I find it a bit ironic that now that Free and Harley have tried to do some things to help more people, that all the detractors would have expected then to write off, and it sounds like they are "kicked out" of the WFF "pioneers club" (if such a thing exists) for it. It is incredibly ironic, because Harley and Freelee have ALWAYS stated that jumping in with both feet is the very BEST transition. Harley especially has little patience for dithering around at the starting gate! LOL! But they really want people, if they cannot take the best road, to at least get on some road, any road, that will at least lead them in the right direction.
Anyway, with the site here just continuing to grow nonstop, I'd dare to venture that it is working, that despite some phony labels, people are hearing and responding to the message. That more and more of them are coming away from eating animals, coming away fom eating the processed junk sold as food and towards a kinder and healthier way of life.
It has been said that sometimes when you encounter resistance, it is because you are doing a thng right. I just wanted to say to Freelee and Harley, well done guys, well done. :)