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I am newly vegan, direct from meat eating, after watching "Meet your Meat" youtube clip changed my life, it was so disugsting we as human treating animals for our taste. I decided to quit eating meat entirely. I dont even eat fish but many people arorund me argue that it is good for your health. So please throw any light on it.
There is not enough information available about danger of eating fish online. Only thing i know its high in cholosterol.

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Comment by ednshell on June 16, 2010 at 1:36am
In The Cove a scientest tests the mercury levels in dolphin meat, which is regularly sold as salmon and other kinds of meat, to find the mercury levels in the millions ppm when the acceptable levels are below 100 ppm, I don't remember the exact numbers but it was unbelievable.

If you have not yet seen this year's winner for best documentary, The Cove, I highly recommend it!


My family just watched 'The Cove'! It was so well done, entertaining, fascinating information, so deserving of the academy award. It was not gory at all. Only sad in a few places, the saddest part is knowing what it is about before you watch it.

It was a humanistic documentary, with a real life mission impossible feel, I highly recommend it for the whole family. Very educational about the way countries work, how people make a difference, and how people do lie, etc.



"During the Greek Era it was punishable by death to harm a dolphin, we’ve lost that somewhere, that respect."
explains Ric O'Barry, The Cove co-producer.*
Comment by B on October 25, 2009 at 5:53am
Ben: Since the opinions I hold are not my own originally, if you have issue with them I suggest you consult their original authors. As you may not be familiar with some of the sources I am referring to, I will list them for your convenience.

If you question the long term consequences of excess protein and fat consumption, consult T.C. Campbell's The China Study. You may also refer to some of the articles available at the natural hygiene website rawfoodexplained.com

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_China_Study.
http://www.rawfoodexplained.com/

If you are skeptical about the human body's ability to produce its own EPA and DHA, consult Rick Dina's educational materials, or the Wikipedia entries on DHA and EPA for that matter.
http://www.rawfooddoctors.com/articles.html
http://www.rawfooddoctors.com/livinglightcourses.html

If eating a fish in its whole state in the manner of a grizzly bear or perhaps king fisher seems like natural human behavior to you, consult T.C. Fry's anatomical comparisons between humans and carnivores, the latter he concludes humans are not. A concise summary of this can be found in chapter 1 of The 80/10/10 diet. For quick reference consult the following article by Milton Mills MD:

http://www.geocities.com/RainForest/2062/ana.HTML

If after consulting these sources you discover any problems with the authors' evidence or reasoning, I would like to hear about it.

It may be true that some individuals cannot synthesize sufficient quantities of EPA and DHA to maintain homeostasis, requiring them to rely on a dietary source. Fish however do not produce their own EPA or DHA; it is produced by sea algae which fish, krill, etc. consume:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Docosahexaenoic_acid
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epa

It would seem logical to conclude that the best dietary source of EPA and DHA would be the original source, so spirulina would be a superior option to krill or salmon. This however in my opinion would seldom be necessary given a proper raw vegan diet if dietary fat intake levels where in the healthy range.

Fish by the way constitutes only a 'relatively small' part of the Okinawan diet.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Okinawan_Diet

Perhaps if they ate a diet entirely of fish they would live a thousand years, who knows. However, I doubt that even they would find raw fish without any condiments whatsoever (the way all creatures in the wild enjoy their natural food) the least bit appetizing, but that's just my entirely non-factual belief : )
Comment by B on October 24, 2009 at 6:49am
Appleman: Studies in Britain have shown that fish have feelings too:

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/11/17/national/main656288.shtml

Keenan: Good point about the omega 3 fats in fish oil. ALA and GLA are the only 'essential' fatty acids the human body requires, meaning the body can't produce them from other materials and needs to acquire them from food. Even though EPA and DHA are extremely hard to come by in plant foods of land origin, they can synthesized by the body given sufficient quantities of the omega 3 ALA, which is hard NOT to come by in fruits, veggies and a number of overts. If however we consume too much dietary saturated fat, this compromises our body's ability to produce the long chain omega 3s like EPA and DHA. This is another good reason not to eat meat, which is loaded with saturated fat.

Also, ALA, EPA and DHA have a delicate molecular structure. Because of this, in addition to going rancid quickly, they do not endure heat well at all. Notice the 'DO NOT HEAT' warning on bottles of flax oil, which is an extremely rich source of ALA. EPA and DHA are actually LESS resilient than ALA since they are longer molecules. Those who don't eat sushi cook their fish, so they receive the dubious added benefit of scorching their already rancid omega 3 oils. : /

The best source of EPA and DHA is neither fish nor sea vegetable, but your own body, if it is fed enough fruit and greens. Don't let the so called 'experts' try to fool you. : )
Comment by B on October 24, 2009 at 4:03am
Imram: Meat is bad for you no doubt. Eating fish however is arguably even WORSE for your health than meat.

Fish decays much more rapidly than meat, hence the 'fishy smell'. After consuming, it tends to go rancid while it is in your digestive tract. Nothing healthy about that. Additionally, as a result of this, people who eat fish have foul smelling body odor and stools. You never want to have to use the bathroom after a fish eater, trust me : b

Other negatives in terms of health: fish is overly high in protein and/or fat, long term over consumption of which leads to devastating health consequences. Farmed fish are fed hormones, antibiotics and other chemicals to 'enhance their growth'. Many varieties of fish are also known to be contaminated by high levels of mercury and other toxins, e.g. tuna, swordfish, salmon, orange roughy, marlin, etc. Fish was never a human food, and relatively recent human interventions have made it even less so.

It is true that fish, particularly cold water varieties, are high in omega 3 fats, which most people don't get enough of in their diet. Well guess what, so are fruits and greens, which most people also don't eat enough of! Eat enough human food please, folks.

I don't need to go into the ethical arguments against fish eating, your moral compass already has led you in the right direction. Given the health consequences alone, except possibly under the most unusual and challenging circumstances, there is absolutely no good reason for humans to consume fish. In my humble opinion, anyone who says that eating fish is 'good for you' isn't talking out of their mouth. : )

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