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Despite contrary belief - cats and dogs apparently are alright to have avocado....

See article for further infor on why cats and dogs are ok to eat avocado:

http://www.petinsurance.com/healthzone/pet-articles/pet-health-toxi...

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Comment by PK on August 21, 2013 at 4:50pm

For Others who might be reading this:

Taurine can be synthetically and chemically made, and yes, as I previouly posted with references, most taurine products on the market are synthetic and vegan friendly.  

http://www.ehow.com/how-does_4963621_how-taurine-made.html

Another method which could also be vegan based if needed (check source)

In one method, amino acids methionine and cysteine are used along with vitamin E.  Many raw fruits, greens, and especially nuts and seeds such as peanuts all have these base ingredients.  

http://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/legumes-and-legume-products/4355/2

Peace, PK

Comment by Tina is mina on August 21, 2013 at 3:29pm

Do you know of any whole foods that have taurine, other than meat and man made supplements?

The supplements created for cats have derived their taurine from somewhere... do you where?

Dear PK, If you truly believe you are perfect and blameless (aka a righteous being) then please ignore the next few lines.......

I'm not suggesting any killing thank you! You came across pretty strong and self righteous and that was horrifying for me to read - funny vids, 'peace' out or not.

I would love to have healthy vegetarian cats but the fact that they (along with many humans) are meat eaters should not be ignored and I am not a fan of risking my cat dying slowly of malnutrition related  hunger with a bellyful of watermelon. Plus there is no taurine in watermelon.

I cant help but think how wrong it is to ignore the fact that a being (animals inc) deserves to transition safely.

The other day a cat died in my area and it was said to be because it was taurine deficient (vegan owners) which would have been a horrible way to go and also sucks because it gives vegans a bad rap.

If its true then some serious attention needs to be paid to what cats can truly eat and not eat, wouldn't you say? i.e. my post started because I discovered avocado's are not as bad as most people say they are and allowed my cat to eat some because he was begging me for some even on a part meat diet. This was before I found the link discussing safe use of avocado's for pets and i allowed my cat to try some anyway, as a guinea pig, because I  was following my gut, I am all for non consumption of meat, as long as its safe!

 

Perhaps if I could, I would turn a blind and feed my cat what I think is best. There is no promise that once he goes outside, hungry for nutrients (inc taurine) and perhaps full of watermelon, he's going to get what he needs any which way - by killing wildlife.

I'm sorry but Im not falling for marketing tactics even if it says vegan, organic etc and I am not believing that taurine based supplements for cats are not derived from animals necessarily just because the label says so.

Furthermore, I never read any disclaimer that said I was not allowed to be on here, if my cat was not vegan, or even I was not vegan, so I would appreciate your refraining from being self riotous and plain rude because your scaring people who genuinly are working hard at changing their lives - I for one.

Comment by Made on August 21, 2013 at 1:00am

Nice video clips of cats! I didn't know that big cats would eat fruits too!

Comment by PK on August 21, 2013 at 12:36am

@Tina,

30BaD is an animal sanctuary and no kill zone, and that includes what we feed our household companions.  For more reasons why and for vegan sources for our cats and dogs, feel free to read this page:

Animal Sanctuary and 30BaD No Kill Zone! - 30 Bananas a Day!

Regarding Cats and Vegan Taurine

We have many members here who feed their cats and dogs either a raw vegan diet, and or a vegan/kibble diet.  

Yes, cats do need taurine in the their diet.  However, it is not necessary for them to get it from animal products.  

Although taurine was originally isolated from ox bile, hence the latin derivate of taurus or bull, most taurine on the market today and or pet foods made with taurine is actually synthetically made and or falls under a vegan and ethical category.  

So it is not necessary to feed our pets raw meat products in order to fulfill their taurine requirements. 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taurine

http://www.veganstore.com/product/vegecat-supplement-for-adult-cats...

http://www.livestrong.com/article/409702-natural-sources-of-taurine/

http://www.ehow.com/how-does_4963621_how-taurine-made.html

http://whatistaurine.net/what-is-taurine-made-from/

Regarding Vegan Raw or Cooked vegan pet foods

Many cats love these foods and or to eat human table food.  My nieces cat love flatbread and vegetables!  

Cats may be attracted to watermelon especially because of its bright red color and high protein and fat content. And of course it is a challenge to open, hunt, kill, play with etc:-D

I leave you here with some humorous and cute watermelong addicts:

Edit here...sorry about technical difficulties...this is supposed to be a collection of big cats eating watermelon...

Peace, PK

Comment by Tina is mina on August 20, 2013 at 7:23pm

Yes, the taurine info is not in that article, sorry. I just remember that one from another time. here is a link that explains why cats unlike humans and dogs, can not create taurine in their bodies:

http://rawfed.com/myths/cats.html

Comment by Made on August 20, 2013 at 6:32pm

Thanks for the link!

However I did not find anything about meat and taurine.

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