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Depression Supplement: Feeling Strange

I'm feeling strange today and yesterday. The only thing I could say is that the L-tyrosine increase I've been taking, or the fact that my period should be here tomorrow. I just feel strange. I normally take L-tyrosine at about 100mg, but ran out and they only had 500mg. Since my depression could definitely see some improvement, I figured it would be helpful. It was sort of an experiement. The 5-HTP I take is heaven sent. Helps me sleep, feel calm and a sense of well-being. But, I still struggled with depression and particuarly, a lack of enjoyment in things I used to like (which I assume is dopamine related). So since the l-tyrosine helps create dopamine I figured if I increase it, I can feel more towards normal, or how I once did before I developed candida/chronic fatigue syndrome. I think the problem is that it also increases norepinephrine. ewwww... I guess I should either stop taking it, or decrease it back down quite a bit.

I would describe how I feel today as...
I'm in a different world
and its some how, coming to an end
I'm not in control of my life
not like myself
disconnected from others
and worried about my life

I've been on walks, listened to calming music and practiced deep breathing. In the end of the day, I am feeling a little crazy and nervous, but know that it would be much worse without those practices. I also know that these feelings will fade and I will feel more centered and sure again.

Also, I'm getting sick of bananas, but I dont know what else to eat that I can get those kind of calories at the price. I'm living off foods stamps, and organic foods are even hard to find around here.

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Comment by cbs on October 14, 2009 at 12:11pm
Thanks for this post. I'm struggling with bad anxiety and insomnia myself. I will try some of the suggestions, thanks.
Comment by Antishred on October 14, 2009 at 8:21am
Hi Sabrina, have you ever thought about fasting? I remember of a person feeling better after one. Fasting not only is good for body cleansing, but also for the mind.
Hope you can find a solution... supplements are just legalized drugs in my opinion.
Comment by jnanda lampman on October 14, 2009 at 2:41am
Ah, I just remembered the other amno supplement for depression that made me really hyper and uncomfortable, SAM-e.

I stopped doing most supplements about a year and a half ago. Depression is one of the worst symptoms I have dealt with in the past......for me it topped even severe chronic pain and many serious maladies.

Have you ever tried homeopathy or Bach Flower remedies? I studied this in India several years ago. If you want to PM me for ideas, or support I'm here.
Comment by jnanda lampman on October 13, 2009 at 1:30pm
Supplementing with amino acids is great but so individual. Some of them calm me down, and others do the opposite for me. I had good experiences with 5htp, taurine, melatonin, gaba, but tyrosine also made me hyper and so did others. My brain is really sensitive, and I do best using homeopathy for most things. A lot of foods were horrible triggers for me too, which is why the 811 is such a great thing. It's a relief to be eating food that isn't making me feel bad. Hang in there....with more time, I'm sure everything will get into better balance. You are definitely on the right track. Take care!
Comment by B on October 13, 2009 at 1:11pm
The 5HTP has been doing you tremendous good then. Looks like you're on the right track. Hopefully it will just be a matter of time before you're brain is producing enough of its own neurotransmitters to keep you happy and motivated. : )
Comment by Sabrina on October 13, 2009 at 11:32am
Yeah, I'm hoping that I can stop all amino acids after being consitent with 811 for at least 2 months. I've been struggling with depression for so long, I hadn't been able to be stable or sober, but since finding amino acid supplements, I've been able to do so much more, like eat raw (and have 4 months sober!). But I do agree that all should balance out after my health improves. I do 1 head of organic greens a day in my smoothies too :D. Even when I'm doing 811 (its only been 85-90% the past 25 days), I still get depressed if I skip the supplements. So, fruit right now is not enough. I'm sure the fruit is helping, but probably have to have improvement in my health state. The anxiety improves on 811- but the depression is still hanging on.

Thanks so much for your insight. I will definitely stop the tyrosine and keep with the HTP until I've been doing 811 a little longer.
Comment by B on October 13, 2009 at 10:34am
Sabrina: It is good to hear that the 5HTP is helping. That said, I don't think that there is any need for you to be taking amino acid supplements. Most fruits and vegetables contain all 8 essential amino acids in varying proportions, including bananas. Tryptophan, one of the essential 8, is the precursor to 5HTP. Tyrosine is non-essential and can be synthesized by the body given sufficient quantities of the essential 8. If you're eating enough fruit and greens, it's unlikely you'll be deficient in either amino acid, or any for that matter. However if the fruits and veggies you are eating are not particularly high in Tryptophan for example, consuming blended greens should help top up your Tryptophan reserves so your brain can produce and release enough seratonin to keep you feeling calm and happy. No supplement required.

Green smoothies and/or green soups would be worth trying if you don't do so already, or increasing your green intake if you do. I like them because they are easy to digest, taste good and have plenty more nutrients available for absorption. I tend to eat green soups daily. I occasionally have green smoothies, but whenever I make a fruit smoothie/soup etc. I usually a stalk of celery and a handful of spinach or lettuce. This also really enhances the flavor for some reason.

The money you save from not buying any more amino acid supplements could be put towards more interesting and palatable seasonal fruits.

I'd say stop taking the Tyrosine, and maybe slowly back off the 5HTP. Get more blended greens into you. Your head should be back in a good place again soon.



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