30 Bananas a Day!

Yesterday I decided to have a thali at The Taste of Lewisham. They're only available until 5pm, so it was a daytime meal. I haven't been treating diet with strict discipline, and I don't intend to, so I didn't argue with myself about it: I fancied it so I had it. The spices got some stuff moving in my chest and I coughed up some matter as I cycled home, and this may have done me some good. The main effect of the meal, however, was a feeling of heaviness and a lack of enthusiasm for anything for the rest of the day except vegging in front of the computer screen. It increased the viscosity of my day and everything seemed like too much effort. This is the repeated effect of cooked food generally and especially in the daytime. Also, later on I has a banana smoothie meal and this too felt heavy, like it was just sitting on top of the cooked food from earlier.

By indulging in these whims I am gradually weaning myself off the foods that are the least helpful to me. Pasties and patties are well and truly off the menu, now after a few bad experiences and thalis are going the same way. I really don't want a repeat of yesterday. In this way my diet improves not through discipline, commitment and a sense of 'should', but through a genuine desire to avoid foods that kill my vitality based on firm experience. This is a more robust way forward for me, even if it takes a bit more time and means I have a few rubbish days along the way.

On the other side of the coin, I keep in mind what Durianrider said on a recent video, that emotional strength is needed to keep on track. Stress, being under-carbed, and especially tiredness bring about a weakness in my ability to think straight and can lead me into self sabotaging behaviours, and it is at these times that I need to watch myself and try to remain alert to what is best rather than being drawn along by inner voices that are remnants of old and obsolete habitual behaviours. Carb up, get enough sleep, etc., etc.

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Comment by Tom on September 27, 2012 at 8:52pm

I totally agree. Most of the time there's nothing I want more than a banana smoothie - it tastes great and feel great when I stick to raw. Each time I succumb to something cooked it strengthens my sense of how good the raw stuff is. I look forward to a time when these foods that make me feel dull and heavy seem like things from another life.

Giving up meat (23 years ago) took a few months of transition. Giving up dairy (3-4 yrs ago) was a one-time never-look-back decision. Going raw is the most radical change I've attempted and is taking a little time. Some say 811rv is "not possible" in cool climates like the UK - well, I'm just going to do my best because I have seen for myself how much better I feel when I avoid the cooked.

Thanks again for your helpful support.

Comment by Macuilxochitl on September 27, 2012 at 1:53am

You said:

If, when I fancy some cooked food, I tell myself I won't have it because I'm not allowed, this works less reliably than remembering when I felt dreadful last time I ate it. 


What I'm proposing here is a third alternative to these two: putting yourself in a situation where fancying cooked food hardly occurs, and if it does, it's more a deliberate choice to be made  rather than a compulsive temptation which you can only deal with by getting out the whip (ie. adhering to the "rules") or threading the path of repentance (ie. indulgence).
I don't doubt that candy busting works for you, but I want to offer another view of discipline, which is a great skill in my opinion. It's not constant whiplashes, heartaches and struggles, as many people on 30bad seem to suggest, but rather getting so good at eating frogs they genuinely start to taste great - and candy altogether seems like a thing from another life. Eating your frogs is as practical as candy busting, and it reinforces positive habits rather than merely weakening bad ones.* 

I hope I didn't get too entangled in words, haha. In any case, whatever is on your plate today: bon appétit.

*PS: Did you know? Bad habits can't be erased, they can only be transformed into good ones. So if eating cooked was once a habit, you have to develop a different routine instead - one that is equally rewarding. 

Comment by Tom on September 27, 2012 at 12:38am

@Macuilxochitl   Thanks for the comment :)

Interesting about the spices.  I don't know the Eat that frog philosophy but I get what you're saying.

you are merely learning how to dread certain kinds of candy

Yeah, that's what I'm doing.  If, when I fancy some cooked food, I tell myself I won't have it because I'm not allowed, this works less reliably than remembering when I felt dreadful last time I ate it.  That works for me.

I'm loving how I'm becoming more sensitive to how different foods make me feel. I'm finding out for myself, first hand, what everyone around here is saying, and that is much more powerful for me than simply believing. If I just follow rules then when things get tricky I may start doubting the rules, but if I know from my own experience, I'm way more likely to push on through.

I'm not saying this is right for everyone, it's just my way. For me, the word 'should' doesn't work.

Comment by Macuilxochitl on September 26, 2012 at 11:47pm

As Natural Hygiene sees it, what you coughed up wasn't something accumulated in your body, but the very spices you ingested; ie. body eliminating irritating substances as soon as they enter the system. Quite efficient, if you ask me.
I'd say disciplined eating matters and can be quite enjoyable. This is best illustrated by the philosophy of Eat that frog, that is: do what you gotta do. So, in this context, eating a frog would be any task related to proper HCRV nutrition vs. doing the inherently appealing, like indulging in cooked meals, which I'll call candy eating. 
Keeping that in mind, if you ask yourself every day "what would be my biggest frog to eat today" or "what frog, if eaten with consistency, would greatly improve the quality of my life", you are going to get good at frog-eating. But if instead you choose to ignore the frog and go for the candy in order to regret it, you are merely learning how to dread certain kinds of candy. Many people on this site don't crumble  because they love candy too much, but because they don't have solid frog eating habits. With proper frog eating habits, eating any kind of candy is out of question.
How to build solid frog eating habits? That's a good question which I'd like to discuss... maybe I'll make a topic on the forums. 


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