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here's what i suggest for starters:

1. research existing vegan wikis and determine if we should do our own or join someone else's. i haven't looked, so i don't really know what's out there other than this:

http://vegan.wikia.com/wiki/Vegan_Wiki

so let's check things out.

assuming we do this on our own wiki, we need appropriate software. i'll look into that as well as where to house the wiki.

2. develop a core group of editors who are committed to doing the job. they will need to understand the wiki mechanism (once we figure out the software) and establish the quality standards for articles (ie references, sources).

3. establish a 'research' team to scan the web and prepare articles for publication which will be submitted to the editors.

4. consult with existing 'wikiers' to develop efficient procedures.

please add other ideas below.

a big thanks to paul for thinking about creating a vegan wiki and forming this group!

in friendship,

prad

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don't know if anyone has checked out existing veganwikis, but i looked at

http://vegan.wikia.com/wiki/Vegan_Wiki

it is mouseclick hell! you have to keep clicking deeper and deeper to find anything ... and sometimes you don't.

so imho i don't think it's a good setup based on the brief inspection i gave it.

my present feeling regarding going with some established wiki is that you don't know how long it will be there. if the site folds, you may lose everything (though i don't know enough to make this statement conclusively).

assuming i am right, i propose a 'semi-wiki' setup which can be run from our own server:

1. we have contributors who gather material and do write-ups

2. we have editors who prepare the documents into an established format

3. these documents get sent to me for publication

4. updates are done by editors and again sent to me for publication

5. an up-to-the-minute copy of the entire site will always be available for anyone - that way nothing is ever lost and if desired the entire site can be moved to any server

i'm partial to doing things on my server too because i can do things with the data (eg develop an expert system eventually) that i probably wouldn't be able to do if the information were on some other wiki site.

if this idea has approval from the group, let me know and i'll start setting things up structurally.

we still have to discuss format of articles etc.

in friendship,

prad

Hey All,  Check out this site   http://vegan.wiki.yt/en/Main_Page    I like the format, it is add free which I like & though I've not yet communicated with the moderators they appear to be open to new contributors.  It could be a nice skeleton to start with.  Prad's got the encyclopedic knowledge that could lift this wiki big time but I think they have a good start. 

I think the site (http://vegan.wiki.yt/en/Main_Page) was started in Europe and that is affecting the quality of the English, but I'm starting to poke around and see if I can gradually correct the errors. 

it looks good so far to me, paul.

possibly the best thing to do would be to join an established effort and see what it is like.

the software is mediawiki which is a good open source product.

we can also take info from contributions and work the expert system that i'm contemplating, so this could serve very nicely.

check it out further and see if a couple of our members can help you. the wiki people should be directed to our group here too because it may be helpful for them to know that we're serious about this.

then let's make a decision and get to work!

in friendship,

prad

Thanks Prad.  One nice thing about this wiki is it is very new.  So if we get in early I think we can help deepen the quality and affect overall direction from the git go.  I have edited a few entries and will make sure what I'm doing is acceptable to the founders.  I have sent an email suggesting that we have something to offer and will advise them of 30Bad per your request.  Thank you sir. 

Prad,  I got a nice response from a Kasper there.  They are eager for new contributors and happy to have more rigorous science.  It is looking pretty good.  I get the impression that whoever founded it just likes founding wikis.  I'm not sure if she's still involved or not.  But it seems like a pretty blank slate.

ok this sounds good!

so as long as the wiki is stable, i think this would probably be a good way to start.

possibly you can encourage some input about this from the others in this group?

in friendship,

prad

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