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The Bike Path

To make a fresh fruit fueled migration up and down the coast manageable for reasonably fit people (rest stops every 50 miles). The follow through will be more ambitious.

Location: Fresh Coast
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Latest Activity: Aug 27, 2015

I dreamt of this.

A path that would facilitate rest areas for homeless bicycling. The total cost should be under or around $500,000. That may sound like a lot, but consider the prospect of 200 fit vegans who would use this awesome path - it would only cost $2,500 each.

What would that money go to? Ownership of acreage.

As it stands, no investment is necessary, we can simply offer our homes as rest stops on this journey.

There are already vegans in the major stops from Northern California up: Vancouver, Seattle, Portland, Sacramento, San Francisco. So now we fill in the dots with rural properties.

I have been looking into properties for several years and have some familiarity with cheaper properties in Washington, Oregon, and California.

There are plenty of properties under $10,000 that have over 2 acres of land. Ideally, we can find what fruit trees are proper to that property :) and we can set up the mass migrations for harvest time. One acre of apples produces quite a lot of apples. (http://www.localharvest.org/blog/15945/entry/calories_per_acre_with_apples)

If we are buying properties at an average of $3,000 an acre, we will have purchased enough land to produce enough food to feed everyone in the group - year round. The beauty of having property from Canada down to California is that the harvests can be timed so that harvesters and travelers can happily stay in each place during a different season - and therefor stay at the properties legally without having any residence or bathrooms constructed. In Alturas, where we already own property we can legally camp and stay for 1 month out of the year. We will easily attain more than 12 properties in this plan and therefor can legally live year round.

The property tax will be minimal because the property cost will be minimal and legal value may stay that way. I don't know if the value of land will get adjusted as it gets full of fruit trees, but my expectation is it will not and if it does then we'll be happy to have the trees anyhow.

There are a few rules I aim to maintain: 1. 100% vegan 2. 100% organic 3. No garbage.

My long term goal is that this will be a network of even closer properties to make it very comfortable and enjoyable to walk from North to South - without having to pack any food.

Now what happens when we connect with these rural areas will be amazing, but beyond the scope of this description for now.

So what is this step? To connect those that like this idea that live in appropriate places to say yes to offering a "couch-surfing" location to people in the group. Perhaps some of us will take up a nice trip. I know that there are already people that have traveled by bike up and down the coast. I hope those that have will be able to provide their guidance and wisdom and help map out where the properties should be purchased.

Keep in mind that this is very open source - meaning that no one has to follow any guidelines in order to contribute. If you feel like buying a property in Eastern Oregon. Go for it! If you want to buy a half a million dollar property somewhere near San Francisco that's great. I just have guidance speaking to $500,000 being enough to set up a homeless bicycling center. Maybe it's just going to be one location that people will all migrate to during the summer and we'll be good enough from the couch surfing options plus public camping.

All right. I've said enough to get the basic idea out there.

The Green O's are locations I already know we have people living in. And one O is for property we have in Alturas, CA.

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Comment by Justin Theodra on August 27, 2015 at 9:02am

Yes!!! this is so cool!

Comment by Orion Harmon on August 28, 2014 at 7:34pm

Having a permaculture community along the coast is a good idea. I can contribute the 2,500 right now if I wanted too. I will keep saving money though I am thinking about getting a new bike.

Comment by hannah on October 18, 2011 at 2:41am
I'm curious if you plan on making any money? Obviously people will need it for maintenance, taxes, and water.... One issue I see is if you want a very permacultural yard you want variety variety variety, whereas you would only want to plant the stuff that is fruiting at the time that you are going to be there.. Otherwise it would be a waste. Who would water and take care of the yards while people are away? Is this plan to have some people at each property at all times? That doesn't seem quite feasible (like with Canada in the winter? No one would want to be there).. Anyway, just curiosities.
Comment by teedo on February 18, 2011 at 2:02pm

wow wow wow. genius! now this is something i can get behind and actually save money towards.


i'm hoping to bike the west coast in the next year or so and it would be amazing to have an 811 route even if it's not legal. legality has never stopped this one :p


land is the only thing i deem valuable these days other than my body of course.


buying land in BC seems ultra expensive though. i'm going to look into this.

Comment by Clifton on December 23, 2010 at 4:38pm
Nice Idea More fruit = More fun.....More land = More fun.
Comment by Ted Carr AKA Ted Carb on December 1, 2010 at 8:20am

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