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This is a group for freethinkers who do not believe in a deity or higher power. We know that we can exist and live a life of harmony with nature and folks through kindness and good deeds but are not focused on an after life.

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Sam Harris:

Started by AndreasOlivier. Last reply by Sunshine Dec 25, 2011. 5 Replies

One of my favorite atheists/humanists argues why we don't need to call ourselves atheists, and the problems with doing so:   Continue

In the Closet

Started by PK. Last reply by Mark Gailmor Ⓥ May 21, 2011. 7 Replies

Hey all,I have practiced various forms of the worlds monotheistic religions which believe in a god.  I suppose I was attracted to religion for its order and discipline. Many people who practice…Continue

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Comment by RawVeg-Anne on August 16, 2011 at 4:01am

Hello everyone, glad to see there are other fruities that are good without a god :)

Okay, about me.... I grew up in a fundamentalist Christian home, and started questioning and "straying" by age 10/11... came out of the "atheist closet" at 18/19. I'm more inclined toward what I guess would be considered "pantheistic" by some (nature/elements are all what other people think is "god," but not really...) However, I don't worship a sky fairy, nor do I worship the earth, or anything for that matter, but I do respect and appreciate all that nature/earth does and gives us, all other living beings, and plants, and wonder at her incredible beauty. I'm quite interested in god-less Buddhism, but don't really actively follow any teachings as of yet, but from my few readings I have tried to incorporate ideas into my life. I like science, and though some things floating around in my head that run along the definition of "belief" are not scientific, I know they aren't, and therefore do not find it logical or right to convince others that my "belief" is correct, it is merely my own personal speculation. (Example, I think perhaps all life is somehow connected in a "collective consciousness" on some level, or at least that life gives out energy, and that each life's energy can be perhaps read, and affected by other energy, be it good or bad... sounds kinda wacky, sorry!)

Comment by VeganVital on August 13, 2011 at 3:31am
Great to be here, thanks, Mark.  I've always been very open-minded and questioning so I'm sure we'll get on fine!
Comment by Banana Xandra on June 16, 2011 at 7:02am

http://www.30bananasaday.com/forum/topics/books-2

 

I started a discussion on books! I would love to see what you have to recommend.

Comment by AndreasOlivier on May 30, 2011 at 8:08am
Thanks Mark.
Comment by Banana Xandra on January 19, 2011 at 10:50pm
welcome everyone! we doubled in a week. cool
Comment by PK on January 19, 2011 at 3:09am
Mark, Thanks for the welcome.
Comment by Banana Xandra on January 10, 2011 at 1:36am

My journey isn't quite as "strange," I guess. I was Catholic until I reached the "age of reason" as George Carlin has said. Many people leave the church around my age. For many of them, good ol' Catholic guilt or the guilt of their parents, brings them back even if just occasionally. My parents still try to get me to Christmas mass, so I'll still be "Catholic." That's just lying, why would I participate in something I don't believe in? By their beliefs, I would be struck down by the might of god!

My change in beliefs started when I started noticing how much responsibility people of certain faiths (especially Catholics) put on their god-head. They turn over so much of their lives to the saving power of their god instead of changing their lives for personal, dare I say: selfish, reasons. We change and grow and love because we want to not because it's the laws of an imaginary guide. That people refuse to follow their own desires is what woke me up.

 

The next time I asked, "What do I want to do next with my life?" The answers were more confusing, but more satisfying because they were my own.

 

I, too, found yoga and meditation. It's helped me center myself and gather the discombobulated thoughts left after my departure from faith.

 

I have also studied different texts from yogis and people studying yogis. The idea that we all are made of the same stuff, which is the very same stuff that makes up the universe and therefore the creative forces of the world has become a constant reflection.

 

Because of this inclusive view, I similarly finding myself thanking the earth, which in turn is thanking the plants, the animals, the humans, the moon, the sun, etc. I'm right there with ya about transferring negative energy to plants. In fact, sometimes, I get a bit frightened when I think of alllll the negative energy that gets transferred on a daily basis.

 

Perhaps all that disassociation with the plants and the earth has led to the disassociation between people and that is why such horrible events have taken place, but definitely not under the "watchful eyes of god." We bring our own fate to us, "god" is not the invisible hand of retribution.

 

Some of those books have been recommended to me before.

Right now I'm, reading The Monk and the Philosopher: A Father and Son Discuss the Meaning of Life by Jean-Francois Revel and Matthieu Ricard. I haven't gotten into the thick of it yet. I've paused to read 80/10/10, but I'll let you know how it is if you haven't read it.

 

I think that my change of view has lead me to LFRV. It was around the same time that I became vegan that I left the church. Not eating dead flesh or the products of such and not believing in false notions of gods makes more sense to me.


Comment by Banana Xandra on January 8, 2011 at 8:35pm

well, since it's just the two of us...

I'd love to know a bit about you and your journey. How did this belief find it's way in your life and does it relate to LFRV? Or does it relate to another aspect of your life? Were there any books that were particularly inspiring to you?

Comment by Banana Xandra on January 1, 2011 at 11:30am
ditto to you, my new friend!
 

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