I read a post by RGG here proclaiming some great results with the use of wheatgrass juice. It brought to mind a couple of things. I know that Dr. Graham does not promote the use of supplements, including wheatgrass juice. But although I think Dr. Graham is definitely the best nutritional authority on the planet, this is one part of his program that I think is possibly mistaken. I use to sell quality mineral supplements (just part-time). And I heard testimonials from some people that were very impressive. Even after learning about 80-10-10 and becoming a steadfast loyalist/practitioner, I have always maintained that quality supplements should be given a chance, and that certainly research in this area is of value... After reading RGG's posts it brought to mind a very interesting case involving one of my best friends, Patty Foley. Patty is a 20 year "Raw Fooder." She does a standard, high-fat raw diet, and not 80-10-10. For many years Patty was quite underweight and under-muscled. But around 2002 Patty started using a mineral supplement (Eniva's "Vibe") and she also began adding "Ocean Grown" sea solid minerals to the trays of wheatgrass that she grows. Patty did not change her diet at all. But within a year or so Patty gained 20-25 pounds of lean muscle! It is remarkable. She is still quite lean, but her face has filled out and she just looks vastly better. She says that she tastes and feels the difference in her wheatgrass juice now since adding the highly mineralized sea solids to the soil (actually the wheatgrass is grown in trays without soil. The liquid mixture is sprayed and falls to the bottom where the roots pick it up). Before adding the sea solids Patty could drink maybe 10 ounces of wg juice in a day. Now she can only consume maybe 6 ounces because it tastes so much stronger (I am using apx figures from memory). The point is that the wg juice has more of a noticeable impact now. And obviously the minerals have also had an impact on Patty... Anyway, I think this is food for thought. I do believe that quality supplementation is an option that just cannot be totally discluded. 811 is certainly the best diet in the world. But perhaps mineral (and vitamin?) supplementation is worth considering, especially from natural sources. -- P.S. - I also briefly sold another mineral/vitamin supplement made from marine phytoplankton (microscopic sea-algae). It is super-high in minerals. There were some interesting testimonials from that product as well, and phytoplankton is actually a "whole-food"). So I think the door needs to be open on this concept.