I was really shocked today to discover that Marilyn Diamond who has been a strong proponent of the vegetarian diet now is eating meat. I looked online and this is what I found as her response to someone questioning her about the change... I would love to hear your thoughts on this because I'm thrown by this. Reading her book 20 years ago convinced me to become a vegetarian. I didn't stay a vegetarian for that length of time but recently I got back on track, gave up the meat, gave up the dairy and eating a diet of 70-80% fruit.
thanks for your support!
Its really disturbing that people refuse to draw the line(s) and instead choose to split things in to a distorted black and white reality. There are OBVIOUSLY DIFFERENCES between plants and animals. Plants can't even move and live shorter lives mostly, except trees and eating fruit doesn't kill the tree.
LIKE. most ridiculous argument EVER and i even get it from academics...i mean ok, maybe plants do feel pain in some way, but they dont have nerves and their pain isnt as obvious and immediate to us in the way that animal pain is. evolution hasnt seen fit to give them mobility, so.... plus, if she wanted to she could choose to eat fruits, nuts and greens and not kill plants. i dont understand how people can refuse to draw a hard line between plants and animals. and im sick of the stupidity of it :( along with the "i see the world more clearly than you do/im more enlightened" blah blah attitude that its usually accompanied by in people claiming it.
The fact that somebody mentions that even plants feel pain as a reason, it says something about them...
Some boy tried to argue this with me for 20 minutes the other day, and refused to take any of my logic for an answer. At one point, I just asked, "Are you actually being serious right now?" as I have a lot of friends that would do that to kid with me. When he responded with "yes" I walked the hell away.
Nah! It could be a clever marketing stunt! I mean, think about it... Long-term vegetarian guru turns to meat only to realise that the vegetarian way of life WAS better and so she returns! Then a new book will come out listing the awful experiences she had whilst being a meat eater... blah.. blah...blah... and she will have those experiences, I know, I'm talking from experience! I was a die hard vegetarian for 10 years and after much pressure etc. I started to eat meat again, which is where my troubles started. Then I decided to switch back to being a veggie again because it IS better than being a meat eater! And now here I am on 30bananasaday following 811!
I need to read that, sounds amazing!
Has science really shown that plants feel pain (at least in the same way that animals do - which is the implication here it seems)?
Where do you draw the line? Seriously. Oh, I draw the line at EATING ROTTING FLESH.
"If the vegetarian diet were the healthiest then in South India, we would not see not only the largest numbers of in the world, far larger than those in the meat eating north of India, but also the shortest lifespan, with poverty factored out of this equation."
those indian vegetarians/vegans who can afford three meals a day and a bed enjoy RELATIVELY healthier than meateaters in later years......anyway, diabetis is just one form of paying consequences........ if u eat cooked vegetarian diet but don't move, u hv massive pot belly :-)
Seriously. There are varying degrees of healthfulness within the cooked vegetarian diet.