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great video, can't wait for deep fried 3-d printed bison balls. lol not really, but i do love these leather rainbow sandals i've had for 7 years now (bought them before i was vegan), and i need a new pair, but don't know what to get. these ones are the most comfortable, but i can't consciously support that industry anymore. hopefully these kinds of products will come sooner than later.

No more excuses to buy into. So cool! Thanks for sharing Rawbert!
Hmmm interesting video and on the surface it seems like an amazing option and way better then the current way we get our leather but I see issues with it as well. Definitely thought provoking. Thanks for sharing

Easy to say that.. but the sad reality is that the masses want 'their meat' and it's better to feed them lab grown meat than killing a 100 billion animals each year.

Yes I can see it as a benefit in that sense. But the amount of resources wasted to build labs and also the pollution it creates from making the building supplies and the chemicals needed to grow the cells and the polution it creates to run all the labs. Not to mention the countless labs you would need to build to be able to produce the amount of animal products to supply enough product to fill the demand which requires 100 billion animals, not to mention the increased demand that may occur because people who are vegan for ethical reasons alone may now become meat eaters now damaging their health. So while not directly killing animals by further destruction of the planet and wasting of resources and contributing to the poor health of humans, it will indirectly kill animals including humans. Not to mention increasing health costs which brings it's own issues. Seems like a good idea on the surface but it is attacking the problem from the wrong direction.

Humans 'waste' resources and impact the environment with most everything they do.. houses, cars, computers, etc.. most of them aren't going back to live in the forest, naked, no tools, no impact, eating fruits and leaves off the trees.

We have to accept reality.

Of course we should make better choices and inspire/educate others to do the same.

Growing and using fake meat and leather is better choice then killing animals, so I support it.

It can be a bridge to veganism. Don't burn it up.

Those people would most likely never go from meat to vegan, but they might go fake meat> toffu > vegan/raw..

The fake meat is going to be cheaper, healthier, less polluting, use less resources, more ethical, etc.. all benefits.. it's a nobrainer.. of course it'd be much better if they'd go vegan instantly, but it's not going to happen.

excellent responses, rawbert!

sometimes people get too wrapped up in the appeal to nature fallacy.

natural isn't necessarily good ... in fact, it isn't even natural:

natural = good?

in fact, some powerful people are seeing fake meat as an important step even monetarily:

billionaires support plant-based food

in friendship,


Yes very true. Good point. I guess it is just a horrible problem to have to solve. I think I am just bothered by the core issue of using and eating animal products. It would definitely help. Hopefully they wouldn't still require live cows for dairy products cause that would just be counter productive in the effort to make the impact on the planet smaller
Oh sorry I didn't address on my comment above who I was directing it to. I was responding to your comment Rawbert. I think you are right Rawbert. I just wasn't seeing the issue correctly. I am still developing my critical thinking skills and my intellectual muscle :-) In a perfect world everyone would be vegan and we wouldn't have to worry about this issue. I hope one day all humans will be vegan and we work with the earth and help improve the earth instead of working against it and destroying it. That may be an unrealistic dream but still I can dream :-)

That may be an unrealistic dream but still I can dream :-)

realities begin with dreams, fol.

in friendship,


Not to mention chopping down the rain forest to feed the poor animals.



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