30 Bananas a Day!

I have been getting in 2800-3200 calories a day, I have the occasional RT4 days, and I get my activity in early in the day.

I eat dinner around 5:30/6 and then a head of lettuce or spinach around 6:30/7. I generally lay down around 8:30, and fall asleep shortly after 9.


Well, lately around 11:30/12 I wake up and I am overly hungry. At first I thought is was thirst, so I wiuld drink a half liter and coax myself back to sleep, but it just keeps happening.

I don't want to eat heavy right before bed, nor am I hungry then.

Any thoughts or suggestions?

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I'm not quite sure if this is RT4, but I eat this if I need to....a bowl of oatmeal (no butter, no sugar) with coconut milk.  If not oatmeal, eat a few cooked potatoes or a bowl of rice, something more than lettuce to get you through the night.  

Last night was just the same and I had nothing cooked.

7am Breakfast: 13 bananas

10am Snack: 2 large dragonfruit

Noon Lunch: 40oz fresh made OJ

3pm Snack: 2 bananas

6pm Dinner: 6 mangos

7:30pm Snack: head of red lettuce.

Totaling out to 3596cals


Then 11:45 hit and I was wide awake like I hadn't eaten

I can say this started after I began b12 supplementing (in the morning).

You need to eat more. Period. I used to wake up every hour of the night in eat... that means my body was telling me I need to eat more during the day!!! I know if I wake up and eat it is because I didn't eat enough that day. Starches and cooked vegan foods can be much more satiating as  well!

I totally agree Amy. My sleep was disturbed this past summer when I was over exercising and not eating enough... I would wake up ravenous in the middle of the night. 

It also seems like my body feels less satisfied/nourished on cooked meals so when I've dabbled in rawtil4 my body felt out of sorts and my sleep wasn't as nice. 

Jen, my suggestion is to do whatever you can do to make your dinner bigger. Maybe you can do dinner #1 at 5:30 and dinner #2 at 6:30. What about dates? They go down easier for me in larger quantities than do bananas. 

I've been out of dates for a few days now, will be getting a new case over the weekend. It's been below 20F /-6C for a while here, and a give potato, corn pasta, or rice "soup" has been nice to have some evenings.

Days I pack most of my meals I have been hitting around 3200, I've been slowly trying to increase my capacity, and some day randomly I can put away far more fruit than others. It's been long enough now that I have had days of 2800 calories and not woke feeling hungry, and days I've have 4000+ calories and have woke feeling like I hadn't eaten all day, both with and without a cooked meal. Generally when I wake I want bananas, but I'm not sure its been enough time since (somedays) a cooked meal. I also don't want to start a midnight banana habit, I have enough trouble staying asleep.

I might try a few Yukon potatoes with my lettuce tonight.
The odd thing is when I wake in the morning, I'm not hungry at all, and if I sleep through the night I don't wake hungry like that.

It sounds like false hunger, that may be detox.  Some say that feeling isn't actually hunger at all.  If you can get back to sleep and get enough, I say don't worry about it.  I often can't get back to sleep until I eat.  I do have trouble eating enough during the day.

Simple fix, you need to eat way more!   3000 cals is the bare minimum for gents: Aloha to 30BaD's Welcome Wagon!

A.  How do i know im not eating enough calories from fruit?

1. Other food starts to look and smell good.

2. Cooked food looks more then the second rate option it really is.
3. Your energy, power, strength start to go downhill.
4. Your attitude starts to suck. You just want to rip apart people and scream at them with frustration.
5. You start to question this whole raw gig.
6. You get cravings during the day and evening.
7. You start to rely on discipline to keep you raw.
8. You start to make raw pasta dishes, raw cakes etc.
9. You start to question if we really need to exercise.
10. Your so thin and weak that your athletic friends start to get concerned.
11. You start to question veganism.
12. You start blending maccadamias with dulse and spread it on 1inch thick flax crackers you made at 3am in the morning.
13. You wake up at night and steal your housemates fruit. If your housemate is called banana guns and he told you not to eat the papaya, and you did, you aint eating enough fruit cals.
14. You start to want to take fancy herbs and experiement with other diets.
15. Your actually eating pizza and reading this.
16. Youve got some Fred Bisci Enzymes in your pocket and your ready to try the 'all raw but 20% cooked rule'
17. You want to believe that Brian Clement is right when he says corn chips are better than fruit. 
18. You just paid aajonus vonderplanitz 400$ for a one hour consult and he told you to put an egg on a window edge for 50 days until its putrid and then to eat it. and you did it. you saw your dog eat some animal poo and you tried it too. ( true story i just heard).
19. You just cant sleep!! you are approaching insomniac.
What are your thoughts on supplementing calories with turbanado or cocoanut sugar?

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