I will start on this +90% fruit lifestyle soon. My main confusion is how is it possible to not get fat on +3000 kcal per day? I understand that DurianRider is lean as hell! This flies in the face of everything I've ever heard about calorie consumption. I'm curious what the mechanism behind all this is?
My guesses are:
Thank you. :D
There are a few ways.
1) High fiber burns fat (google "fiber fat burning"). Most recommendations are 30-35 grams per day to burn fat.
Bananas, Apples, and Oranges each have about 3-4 grams each, so if you eat 10 pieces you get there. If you eat 20-30 pieces of fruit you go into extreme fatburning zone.
2) "Clean" calories (fruits, berries, vegetables) clean out the liver, which allows the liver to go burn fat (has nothing to do with how many calories you eat or don't eat). The liver's job is to burn fat, which it will do if people don't load it with crap dirty calories (processed fatty foods). 90% of your metabolism is in the liver, it controls fat gain and loss, and controls heart disease and diabetes. Learn everything you can about the liver.
It is a fat burning organ, that is what it is designed to do.
3) Get out of starvation zone. Theoretically if you restrict calories you liver wants to create more fat if it can. Eating high calories clean gets you out.
4) Higher potassium levels prevents fat storage in the liver.
Thanks, Jeff. I noticed you copy/pasted from an earlier thread, so I'm sorry for making you do that. I am currently reading about those topics you mentioned because of their appearance in the other thread.
I hope others will chime in as well.
Again, thank you for indulging me.
To be continued . . .
I do not know what you would accept as supporting evidence, peer reviewed science or webmd.com type articles, or youtube videos.
For me, the fact that almost all non-white nations eat fruits, veggies and basic starches (non-processed foods) without any regard to calorie counting outside of hunger while experiencing very low rates of obesity, cancer, diabetes, heart disease is the clincher.
The technical whys and what fors are more academic.
Peer-reviewed science is great. In the absence of that, a biochemical hypothesis would be helpful.
YouTube is fine as well, but I'm sure you know that if it's not backed up by some kind of science---peer reviewed or well-grounded hypothesis---such a video will only be so persuasive.
The statistic you provided about "all non-white nations" is, in my opinion, a very good point. There is the issue, however, that in some non-white nations, it's arguable that many people are below or close to the poverty line. Their calories may be restricted by their budget. It may also be true that their level of activity is far and away much higher than ours. For example, Harley often mentions Chinese rice farmers, but that's a little complicated because Chinese rice farmers are doing physically demanding work all day and require many more calories than most "very active" people in the west.
Without actually counting the calories consumed and burned in these populations, your statement is not as clearly true, even if I personally suspect that it is true.
Thanks for Freelee's video:
I think there's some evidence here that this diet helps burn extra calories, especially the Diet-induced Thermogenesis and potassium content of bananas. :)
Here is a freelee video on the subject.
You may want to watch this, Joel Furman is a vegetable centric "vegan" (he actually eats small amounts of meat) who is also of the "calories don't matter" camp.
I will say that freelee and harley less so do occasionally contradict themselves or appear to, but that's ok they are human beings.
I think when they say speak of satiety they mean that if you fill up on fruit then you won't be tempted to eat other stuff. The philosophy here is clearly that of of clean makes you lean, as opposed to calorie input output.
For me after 5 weeks I've lost 8 lbs easting 2500-3000 calories a day. I'm sick of eating, and I have made basically no changes to my exercise regiment, which produce zero lbs of weight loss over the previous 4 months, so obviously I'm sticking with it.
James here are a couple of videos on liver and fat burning. They are not fruitarian oriented but they do cover some of the fat burning issues.
Some information on fiber
i currently do not know of a resource that directly answers your questions, I can only cull some from here and there.
For me after 5 weeks I've lost 8 lbs easting 2500-3000 calories a day.
Your personal testimony is very reassuring. Also, after one and a half days on the diet, the poops are too good to give up, so there's that. :D
Thanks. Finals are soon, so I'll go through the information you provided afterwards. ;)