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Does 'Peak Performance (physically) = Peak Health?
I believe the answer is YES.

If this is a truth then female body fat levels that are dictated by popular medical professionals will never result in peak health.

I am exited about getting this very important issue out in the open and talking about how having unnatural levels of stored body fat create infinite problems and limitations for both males and females, and in the case of females more problems and issues.

I believe in high water content fruits.  This is what makes me feel and perform my best in athletics. 

SO few people actually go 100% no overts and only eat high water content fruits for more than a few days or weeks. When you really give it a shot and get your body fat down to 3-5% for me (male) and 5-8% for women (when lactating or pregnant a bit more fat %) you won't be able to make a judgment call on whether a high water content fruit diet/ no over fats makes you feel the best.

I believe that women are sold a big load of BS getting recommendations to keep body fat at 12-25%,

I feel women and men never really experience peak health until they achieve the body fat ranges that I just listed above.
Talk is cheap folks...experience something for yourself first hand before you pass judgment on it.
We ALL know what it's like to be fat, eat shit food and not exercise... few of us actually experience stealth body fat levels like all other wild animals in nature (male or female).

We all need to return to nature and look at nature for answers. Show me where natural wild animals have such large differences in body fat levels based on sex? Show me where in nature male/female animals have such large variations in physical abilities?
This a huge topic of discussion.

Popular thinking on this subject is as sick and messed up as people thinking that pills and potions in vitamin shops will offer them a silver bullet to peak health.

People talk about 'detox' and all the issues related to getting things out of your body that you don't need or should carry around...
well start thinking that too much body fat is DETOX stuff!  
Get it off and experience peak health. Carrying around excess body fat makes your hormones crazy, makes you feel lethargic, you can't exercise with ease, can't cool efficiently, makes you more injury prone, causes countless diseases, etc, stored excess fat makes a lot of problems - and until you get to the levels that nature intended I don't believe you can experience health like nature intended.
Sorry to be so hard on excess body fat. I used to be 30lbs heavier than I am now so I talk from some experience too guys. 
There are no shortcuts to peak health and performance.
Body fat recommendations by main stream medical/media (for females specifically) are so out of 'natural' that almost no one  ever experiences true health and freedom from being literally weighed down with unnatural stored fat levels.

Don't believe me?... just go talk to a peak level athlete or Olympian with 3-5% fat (male and female).


I believe one of the main issues in having unnatural body fat levels is all because of what people eat: Overt Fats! (and not enough high water content fruits)

Overt fat intake gets stored as fat -period!  

Overt fats goes right on you and stays there until you are in calorie deficit.

Don't eat overts for a few months then go back to overts and keep your calorie intake the same as it was when you weren't eating overts - You will notice suddenly that you are storing fat on your body. I've watched it happen on myself many times in the past. Overt fats go right to stored body fat. 

Have you ever gone to the bathroom after eating a fatty meal and seen oil floating on the top of the toilet bowl water?
No of course not, b/c your intestinal system absorbs every last fat calorie.

Eat overt fats = increase your stored body fat. Period.

I'm interested in what other people have to say about this issue, mainly from women who currently have very low body fat, but have had higher percentages in the past. What can you tell us about your personal feelings and experience?  Do you feel differently with low body fat vs higher body fat?

People that don't have practical experience in this subject please don't post dogma or stuff that you only believe because of popular things you've read in books or heard in the media. I'm looking for people with practical experience, not inexperienced opinions...

I'm excited about making a video on this subject and appreciate any points / examples people want to suggest to cover.

A good list of fantastic female athletes with natural low body fat is something I am compiling as well. If you want to suggest more - great!

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Michael, all the mentioned lean female athletes are SAD, and so cannot be at peak health, and so their example is not useful in terms of practical experience. I agree about closing this thread too. Perhaps a thread with ripped 811 females would be an interesting followup.
Gosia, how do you know all mentioned lean female athletes are SAD?? I'm kind of shocked at your blanket statements when you have hammered me for data and backing up all that I say/my opinions.
I don't deny that for peak professional athletic performance that single digits aren't optimal, but this doesn't mean peak health alone. I wasn't aware that women who wanted to attain such fitness were struggling over the ideal bodyfat debate.
I think we are just beating a dead horse now...
Yea, I think it's time to close the discussion.
For the benefit of future readers, I don't think they will get much else out of future back and forth on this discussion here outside of what's been said already. If the same people who don't agree just continue to drag this out it's not going to help other people in the future make their own determinations. I doubt most future readers will go past the 10th or 15th page of this thread...
agreed.. would you like to do the honors?
I agree that this post is long and hard to follow and I apologize for being late to game, as it were. But I would like someone to answer:


(other than lack of menstrual bleeding) I can't see any scientific claims here regarding this, nor could I find it when I looked online. But I guess that needs to be a new discussion.
google 'women essential body fat' for more info.
This thread is scary because

1. no one should focus on weight/BMI/body fat percentages, like Elle said the goal is FEELING healthy (not just believing we're healthy because the scales say so).

2. I'm not sure if this was intentional, Michael but you seem to insinuate that denser fruits (bananas) are not helpful in achieving a low body fat percentage (which you equate with greater health).

As a recovering anorexic/bulimic, these messages are contrary to what Free and DR promote on this site. Just my $0.02.
thank you hellicat, this thread makess me sick too.
I am not anti-banana, on the contrary I tell anyone interested in this diet that they better love bananas or they won't be able to make it! I am a person who is currently trying to peak in physical sport activity, and to that end I have had better results eating very high water content fruits. I do NOT believe bananas are bad and have never said that. 30bananasADay, DR, Freelee are top end friends and I don't think I've ever disagreed with anything I've read from any of them.

If someone asked me how to get to super super lean bf % I would talk about a lot of things, mainly training and not so much diet, which most people might find surprising.
I think you just like anorexic looking girls michael.
I saw you once post on a sick-thin looking girl's wall-'you look like all women should' or something ridiculous like that. I agree there are a lot of overweight women in our society and there needs to be improvement, but maybe you should tone down a bit on the proselytizing bit. Give us some room to breath.
I already feel bad enough about myself for not being rail thin, and there needs to be some room for female athletes to be 'good enough'. A range is important.
I was once called a 'chubby' athlete at a normal weight, by a doctor (who was obese ironically) and I nearly wanted to kill myself. We're not all going to be rail tail thin, so don't hate on the rest of us. So relax micheal. We're gonna do the best we can and we deserve love and credit too.



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