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debate with uncle again. oye. claiming grass fed beef does not promote cancer

hi there. my uncle just loves to get into debates with me. (not arguments, we debate)

he emailed me today and said that he doubts there are any studies showing causation of cancer from GRASS fed meat and dairy. he said all the studies done are most likely based on gmo corn fed animals and he "instinctively" believes grass fed beef and dairy does not promote disease.

does anyone know of any studies based on grass fed beef and dairy promoting disease and cancer growth?

harley wanna help me out?? lol i feel like harley would throw a fit if he read my uncle's email

(a well deserved fit i might add)

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thanks but he's looking for "evidence" that proves he should not eat animals. he says, since God says in the bible its ok to eat meat that God would not say that if it truly promoted disease. anybody else?

If he's 'evidence' is the fairy tales of gods and bibles you can as well make up whatever story you want for counter-evidence.

Most people don't want to see REAL scientific studies because they are rather well... scientific and extremely technical and complex. My usual response to "Show me studies!" is to suggest something entertaining as well as informative that use studies to model their facts. Movies, videos, presentations, etc.

You can't go wrong with Forks Over Knives if you have netflix. Dr. Greger of Nutritionfacts.org is great. He has a few presentations that showcase lots of studies that link animal foods to disease.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyyHsb6WGgY&list=TLfq97N_BpMBY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30gEiweaAVQ&list=TLfq97N_BpMBY

I'm also a big fan of Dr. Neal Barnard and his speeches/presentations of his work.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDgA3T_JF2A

Hey Ellen, this study was printed in "The Journal of meat science"  - a meat industry backed scientific journal. It's a good one to share as no meat eater can claim it is a 'biased vegan study'.

From the study "...Recent meta-analyses show that high consumers of cured meats and red meat are at increased risk of colo-rectal cancer... The major (cancer) promoter in meat is heme iron" - yes you read that right. The meat industry admits that heme iron in meat promotes cancer!

Ask your Uncle whether grassfed meat contains heme iron? If it doesn't he may have a point ;-p

http://hal.archives-ouvertes.fr/docs/00/59/29/66/PDF/Corpet-meat-ca...

Also, "The China Study" needs a mention. ;-D The data for The China Study was collected over decades, long before GMO's were introduced... although most meat eaters seem to think legitimate science like The China Study has been debunked...on a blog...by a blogger...with no training whatsoever in epidemiology...

My sister-in-law says the same thing.  I guess someone needs to start doing studies on grass fed beef! 

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