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Conflicting Information Regarding Optimum Caloric Intake

Hello everyone! I hope you are all well!

This past week or so I have stumbled upon a bit of a conundrum in the hclf vegan world. It seems that there are two distinct views regarding caloric intake.

Individuals on Youtube such as katefruit&flowers and riceandraw seem to embrace the caloric abundance of the hclf lifestyle (you go girls!!) but also seem to (correct me if I am wrong) believe that calories in=calories out ensures weight maintenance. That is, anything above your caloric needs causes weight gain. They do not encourage restriction, but they do seem to acknowledge that 3,000+ calories will most likely cause unnecessary weight gain. 

On the other hand, individuals such as Jess (dateswithlove), Elle Taylor, and Freelee the banana girl promote caloric abundance. They seem to encourage individuals to eat 2500 calories minimum, but even more to really thrive. Elle Taylor and Jess are both about my age (18/19); they eat upwards of 3,000-4,000 calories a day and do forty five minutes of excersize, if that. While popular science (calories in=calories out ensures weight maintenance) suggests otherwise, these young ladies are quite slim and fit. They glow and are full of energy! They eat so, so much and barely seem to excersize. Unless they are exaggerating in some way, I don't understand how this could be possible! Is it because your metabolism simply adjusts? 

At this junction in my life, I am torn as to the way in which I should approach the hclf vegan lifestyle. I understand many encourage listening to the body's cues, but mine seem to be a bit distorted as I am two years in recovery from an eating disorder. I am 18 years old, 5'6", at a healthy weight, and active (hour bike riding a day). My doctor recommends that I consume roughly 2,300 calories a day. But she also is not an expert on the hclf vegan lifestyle. I want to have similar results to Jess and Elle, girls my age! I am willing to do whatever it takes to reach maximum health; if this means short-term weight gain than so be it. I just want to know that eating 3,000+ calories will not make me gain lots of weight for the long-term.

I would very much appreciate any advice or personal experiences anyone may have! Or any good books or online resources pertaining to this topic. Thank you all very much in advance- each of you is an inspiration!

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Welcome to 30BaD Bella! :)

We here on 30BaD support counting calories to make sure you get enough, for just the reason you describe.  A great place to learn the details of the hows and whys is here. > 

Aloha to 30BaD's Welcome Wagon!

Thank you very, very much! If you by any chance would not mind sharing, what have you found works for you?

I have done all raw low fat and unlimited fruit that brought my body very quickly into perfect weight.  I have also done cooked low fat unlimited carbs with same results.  I have been on this site for many years and have read so many stories of those that found the same results.  Check out 30BaD's testimonial page: http://www.30bananasaday.com/page/testify-1

I would jump right in to high carb, low fat, high fiber and see how you feel in two weeks eating a minimum of 2500 calories, and see how you are in 2 weeks then decide how to proceed.  

If one does not want to count calories then counting carbs is an alternative.  Either way 30BaD recommends, as almost essential when starting out, using objective measures to make sure one is eating enough.  When we increase our fiber and water intake, there is  a steep learning curve in knowing how to eat enough calories.  Read the hows and whys here > Aloha to 30BaD's Welcome Wagon!

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*  We do not subscribe to the concept of "waiting for true hunger" before eating, we find this advice subjective and potentially dangerous for our members. Posts recommending this will be deleted and members may face suspension, we take this advice very seriously.  Forum Guidelines: Read before posting!

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