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Vitamin B12

Although animal and dairy products are a source of vitamin B12, the natural soil microbes and bacteria found on wild food, unwashed garden plants, in earthy soil and also those supplied by plant fermentation, are typically adequate to supply some vitamin B12 needs. The natural microbes and bacteria in the soil need to be duplicated and colonize in our intestinal tract for optimal absorption of nutrients and elimination of waste without excessive fermentation or internal putrefaction. Vitamin B12 is produced by these natural microbes and bacteria as they colonize the intestines. The best source of these organisms is wild, unwashed food.

Vitamin B12 (cyanocobalamin) represents a family of compounds that contain cobalt. Vitamin B12 helps maintain the myelin sheaths that insulate the nerve fibers. Problems with vitamin B12 absorption and assimilation can result in nerve degeneration. A vitamin B12 deficiency, when in conjunction with a folate deficiency (due to a lack of green-leafy vegetables), can also cause pernicious anemia.

A problem with the formation of vitamin B12 occurs when there is a sterilization that happens between the picking of the fruit or vegetable and the moment it reaches one's mouth. Sterile environments are unnatural. The soil microbes and bacteria that grow on raw fruits and vegetables need to be duplicated in the intestinal tract for the proper assimilation of vitamin B12 to take place. Dr. Victor Herbert described in the American Journal of Clinical Nutrition (1988, vol.48, p. 852-858) the experiences of Dr. James Halsted who traveled to Persia to study a colony of Iranian vegans who did not experience any vitamin B12 defiçiencies. He found that their naturally fertilized vegetables were eaten without being carefully washed. He discovered that strict vegetarians who do not practice thorough hand washing or vegetable cleaning may be untroubled by a vitamin B12 deficiency.

Studies have shown that those eating a typical diet of animal products actually require more vitamin B12 than those who do not eat animal products. This is because the typical diet leads to digestive atrophy. Because vitamin B12 is peptide bound in animal products and must be enzymatically cleaved from the peptide bonds to be absorbed, a weakening of all gastric enzyme secretions (due to poor nutrition) causes an inability to efficiently extract vitamin B12 from external food. Raw-food vegans with powerful digestion, actually get more vitamin B12 by reabsorption from the bile (liver secretions into the duodenum) than they do from external food.

The vitamin B12 standards recommended based on studies of the average cooked-food consumer are 0.0000001 ounces (3-4 micrograms) per day. 

Dr. Gabriel Cousens, a long-term raw-food vegetarian, has included aAn excellent discussion of vitamin B12 in his book Conscious Eating and on the internet. Dr. Cousens feels that a vitamin B12 deficiency, which is rare is typically caused by a lack of absorption in the intestinal tract or a dietary lack of the vitamin. He states that vegetarian and meat-eating pregnant and lactating women alike seem to be susceptible to a vitamin B12 deficiency. He states that macrobioticists and fruitarians may also be susceptible. I have found that individuals who have damaged their digestive system with a high-protein diet are susceptible as well. A link seems to be present between weak digestion and vitamin B12 assimilation.

Getting some soil microbes into your body is very important. By ingesting soil-born organisms, you maintain an enormous reservoir of un-coded antibodies ready to transform specific pathogens... Iron metabolic challenges are solved by living the way Nature intended, occasionally eating a little dirt..”

Roots, such as burdock root, have been shown to contain levels of B12 absorbed from soil organisms up to 0.5 mm into the outer skin.

 

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If you are concerned about b12 and think you are showing signs of deffiency then just take a supplement I say. You can take tablets, sublinguals or injections. To my knowledge high strength sublinguals and injections seem to be both very effective. Hydroxocobalamin, methylcobalamin and adenosylcobalamin seem like the best choices to me. Cyanocoblamin is not found in nature. Hydroxo is found in foods and methyl and adenosyl are what hydroxo splits up into in the body. Methyl mostly found in your blood and adenosyl in your liver apparently.

 

Doug Graham suggests fasting to correct b12 absorbtion problems which he thinks is the major problem in people with deffiencies.

Thank you Liam.  I you are very knowledgeable about the subject.  Its just that I am sensitive to certain supplements and I am taking some others for other health issues. I don't want to mix too many substances into my body. After all, I can't live on supplements....need to eat to supplement them to.  lol.   I am transitioning to a vegan diet.  Concerned about all the fuss that gets mustered up when following a vegan diet that seem to arise.  Anyway, I'll take your advice and look into it.  : D

Supplements or medication? I don't see much benefit you can get out of supplements other than vitamin d and b12 really and some can actually be quite harmful. Ideally you should be getting vitamins from real food sure (or the sun in the case of vitamin d)but I don't think much harm can come from mixing the supplements i mentioned (adenoysl, hydroxo, methyl)or having them alone or whatever. Things you want to watch out for are calcium, acidic forms of vitamin c, folic acid, iron and cyanocobalamin.

B12 shots are the most proven method. They are used in the US in weight loss clinics where patients demand results. They are used in gyms all over the world and in elite sporting worlds to help drop body fat via increased efficiency of carb, fat and protein metabolism. Its the only supp I take or see of any real benefit in todays polluted, high stress world.

 

Ive done a lot of em. Highly rate em for anyone that wants to GUARANTEE high b12 status and low homocysteine/uMMA.

 

39% of the US has low b12. Must be all the organic fruit and veg they eat. ;)

http://www.ars.usda.gov/is/pr/2000/000802.htm

Thanks Harley. wow 39%.  Thanks for the advice. 

Hi-

 

I love your site- very informative, and compelling arguments. I'm interested in more info about using vitamin B12 for weight loss, and for bodybuilding- specific research, if possible. I have Googled and found this- 

Vitamin B12 for Weight Loss- Why it Works

 

Basically, it says that supplementing with B12 is mostly important if you have B12 deficiency, which I deal with. What's your take?

Thanks!

 

Hi Linda, 

I am currently transitioning to the 80/10/10.  So far i am doing great.  I have a few health issues though. 

I have hyperthyroidism.  For me, my metabolism is already pretty high, with occasional heart palpitations at rest.  The article states that it can speed up metabolism while supplementing with B12.  I am not sure yet whether I am or will be deficient during my transition and there after.  That's why it was initially my concern as to stay balanced.  I am currently 130 lbs at 5'6.  Athletic.  Sometimes I would have to stop, as my heart races too much.  Doctors and their medicines to cover symptoms, and cause other ill effects don't excite me.  But supplementing with B12 if I need to, may be the way to stay balanced for me, as it is a supplement, not a med.  Great article though.

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