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Both my mom and my counselor think that medication would help cure my depression.  It's not getting much better, and it will only get worse when my sister leaves for college.  I have a horrible attitude towards everyone around me.  I don't want to have to turn for medication for this but I don't want to bring others down anymore. 

I don't take any medication currently, and I barely ever use things like Ibuprofen or Tylenol.  I've always hated the concept of medication.  However, my psychologist informed me that this would simply raise serotonin levels so I could learn how to solve my problems in a better lighting.  He also complied to prescribe me vegan-friendly antidepressants.  All that's left is to make the decision whether I want to put them in my body or not.

There will be side effects.  Weight gain is not one of them, but nausea, digestive issues, headaches, decreased sex drive, drowsiness, insomnia, etc.  He said it takes up to four weeks for your body to adjust to the medication and actually begin to take effect, and they generally look for an 8 month period of stability while on it before they take you off.  He said that some people continue to use it in college and then into adulthood, and quite frankly, that scares the crap out of me.  I don't want to have to get happiness from a bottle for the rest of my life.

Any insight or experiences that you all could share with me are welcome.

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Several people here have taken antidepressants that permanently made their sex drive zilch even after getting off of them.  They have had problems maintaining romantic partnerships as a result.  Another side effect from antidepressants is suicide.  I would never take them.  The makers of these products have no ethics.  Some good reading here: The Year In Pills- 2010's Big Pharma hall of shame

Are you on a high carb low fat diet?

Are you getting sun on your arms and legs daily for 30 minutes in the summer?

Are you peeing clear 10 times daily to make sure you are well hydrated?

Are you sleeping as much as you like?

Are you eating 2500 calories per daily or more?

Are you getting some vigorous exercise 6 days a week?

All of these factors are necessary for good mental health.

Thank you, ednshell! I run and walk three times a week and work one day a week out in the sun all day.  I am eating a high carb diet with as minimal fat as possible, however unfortunately I still eat more processed foods than I should, like canned beans and peanut butter. I probably eat around 2,000 cal a day. I do pee clear 10 times daily. I sleep fine.  I've been depressed for a while and I can't see eating 500 cal more making me any happier, in fact it might make it worse because of poor body image, but I'm willing to try.  I see my psychiatrist today, so I have to make a decision. It's kind of last minute because if I do decide to take it, I need to do so ASAP so I can adjust before school starts. I will take your advice into consideration.

nooooooooooooooooooo..........  please don't put stuff in your body..... take drugs..... which some weirdo unethical person in a white coat, somewhere in a factory made.

You are you, don't put stuff into your body to change you, other than healthy food.

You are young right. Find me a 15/16 year old who is not moody (depressed).

Some are more moody than others. We can't all be Mr Fun or Little Miss Fun, that would make the world sick.

Stop beating yourself up about it. From what I have read, you are doing pretty good. Serious amount of homework (what's that all about?) I did like 10 minutes a day (usually copying my friends first thing before school). Do you need to do so much homework, that would make me very bored and kind of depressed. Why so much, what's going on there?

You already vegan, this is majorly great. Much kudos here. Remember to pat yourself on the back for the many great things you are already doing. It took me to over 30 to achieve what you have already achieved on this.

You still doing exercise etc.

All in all, sounds not to bad right?

I noticed a lot of vegans/veggies tend to be more 'serious' than people who don't care for much, but yet these veggies who have a lot on their mind, still try to compare themselves to people who have no care in the world, which just makes it more difficult. You clearly care, so this weighs on your mind, and thus it's only natural how you feel. This is the burden of being a caring person.

You are young, learn about yourself for many years to come, drugs will mask who you are.... don't take them. Be free. Free to be yourself.  

Change could be just around the corner.

Edd, that was very helpful. Thank you so much. And yes, the amount of homework is insane, I'm in all the honors courses because I don't know what I want to do for a career and I figured I should try to be experienced in all areas of the best education.  But it is proving to be more and more of a burden, stressing me out to no end until I'm a walking zombie. I am considering dropping my Honors English class, because it is probably the class I won't need as much.

But I do struggle with being the only vegan I know in my town.  And being a teenager who just wants to go to parties and be able to eat what all my friends are eating and fit in just makes it worse. But I know what I'm doing is what is best and that's what keeps me going.

Hey Laura, first of all, I'm very impressed you took the time to reply to everyone. Not many do that on this forum, let alone in the real world. Again, says a lot about you :) thumbs up.

"it is proving to be more and more of a burden, stressing me out to no end until I'm a walking zombie"  I think this explains an awful lot. It's not meds you need, it's less homework, less educational stress, more time for more fun. Trust me when I say this, and others will agree, you are at your peak of having fun times, life only gets tougher, SO MAKE THE MOST IT.

All I would say, is a lack of clarity (in terms of what you want to do), coupled with over burden from homework, which is actually a symptom of the lack of clarity.

Can you each night write 10 goals, which when combined form some sort of long term vision, focussing on what you want to do day to day, and also what is important to you long term. Try and have a few short term goals, then a few medium, then a couple long term. Overtime, this may help you with clarity.

Try and figure out what you want to do, as it seems that level of study and resulting homework is making you worse off, rather than better off, which is the very opposite surely of the intention of education.

You don't have to get it right now by the way. Many adults change career, go back to study, as many people only figure out what they really want to do, many years after University.

Just pick something you enjoy, something you are good at, focus on doing well in that area. It's more about the process and habits at your age, rather than the actual result. A smart kid with good processes and good habits, can learn something new, so you don't need to know everything now, just work on the processes.

When at your age, you must find the time to party, if that's what you want. You have a whole life of study and work ahead, if you need to do that. If you are studying too hard and not partying as much as you want, well, what's the point in that?

Those are very good points and ideas. If school is getting in the way of me being my genuine self and being happy, then maybe I should rethink some of my classes and what they are doing for me.  I will certainly write down some goals and values to help me sort this out. Thank you for all your help :)

And the point about being caring and more 'serious' than my peers rings very true.  I have to start knowing what I'm doing is right and being proud of it as well as not comparing myself to those who follow totally different lifestyles.

Yeh, learning who you are is a very special thing, that many will never do. Learning who you are not, is just as special. From your other reply, at some point, you may feel the need to find and develop relationships with other vegans, if being vegan is important you. If you wanted to be like most others, you would have to empty half your brain :)

Yes, in fact, I NEED vegan friends to remind myself that I am not alone in this journey.  I am anxious to get out of my small town and meet people with the same thoughts and values as my own. And wow, I never thought of it that way! :p

Be wary of car salesman tactics, "you have to do it now".  Yes eating enough vs. under eating will make a huge difference in your mental health!!!  With your activity levels you probably need a minimum of 3000 calories.  So ya 500 probably would not be enough for you.   You must track your food intake on cronometer, otherwise you are just guessing your fat intake as well as your calories intake.

A.  How do i know im not eating enough calories from fruit?

1. Other food starts to look and smell good.

2. Cooked food looks more then the second rate option it really is.
3. Your energy, power, strength start to go downhill.
4. Your attitude starts to suck. You just want to rip apart people and scream at them with frustration.
5. You start to question this whole raw gig.
6. You get cravings during the day and evening.
7. You start to rely on discipline to keep you raw.
8. You start to make raw pasta dishes, raw cakes etc.
9. You start to question if we really need to exercise.
10. Your so thin and weak that your athletic friends start to get concerned.
11. You start to question veganism.
12. You start blending maccadamias with dulse and spread it on 1inch thick flax crackers you made at 3am in the morning.
13. You wake up at night and steal your housemates fruit. If your housemate is called banana guns and he told you not to eat the papaya, and you did, you aint eating enough fruit cals.
14. You start to want to take fancy herbs and experiement with other diets.
15. Your actually eating pizza and reading this.
16. Youve got some Fred Bisci Enzymes in your pocket and your ready to try the 'all raw but 20% cooked rule'
17. You want to believe that Brian Clement is right when he says corn chips are better than fruit. 
18. You just paid aajonus vonderplanitz 400$ for a one hour consult and he told you to put an egg on a window edge for 50 days until its putrid and then to eat it. and you did it. you saw your dog eat some animal poo and you tried it too. ( true story i just heard).
19. You just cant sleep!! you are approaching insomniac.



I disagree your opinion of cooked foods. We can even test it on the bikes. x) me fruit+cooked vs all raw fruits. x)



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