From the wall of the Fruitarian page on facebook:
I am under the name "Fruitarian" here (facebook named me so because I created the page :)Jane E Marchant
Does anyone, especially Lena have some solid research on eating fruit to get your water versus drinking water. I have read the Bragg book on water (pro-drinking), but a book called "Health Revolution" says that water is best obtained from fruit. I want to know what is ideal, not most
convenient. Thank you.
Glad if my experience could be a piece of a bigger picture on the subject for you Jane.
Yes, sometimes I had similar feelings. As a fruitarian one develops higher than normal sensitivity...I am sensitive to everything except juicy fruit. Also I have multiple (hundreds of) chemical intolerances. btw, do you eat bananas and figs, they are flowers not fruits?
That's interesting, I wish I had something like that to have a reason to reject some vegan food tasting :)
They are flowers botanically? I eat both very seldom."The fig is commonly thought of as fruit, but it is properly the flower of the fig tree. It is in fact a false fruit or multiple fruit, in which the flowers and seeds grow together to form a single mass." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FicusI was wrong about the bananas though: they are fruits. The original bananas contained large seeds (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Inside_a_wild-type_banana.jpg), that have been bred to be tiny now. Sorry about that.
That's interesting - next time I see figs I look much closer :)
Hm, I am not buying cut flowers
for decoration, you know, and nobody who knows be ever give me flowers, knowing my views - but I ate figs. I think the main thing here, that the fig tree produced the figs to be eaten (and seeds spread) by animals, so it's part of gradually developed interdependency... You see, my fruitarianism comes from mind :)Aren't (reproductive) seeds produced after pollination then fertilisation? Botanically fruit is produced from parts of a fertilised flower. Figs are pollinated by wasps. I have yet to see a wasp-fertilised fig in shops.But I am now totally with you on not buying cut flowers! We need our flowers to come to fruition, so to speak!
Hm, I saw a big documentary on fig tree exclusively, but it was too log ago to remember such details, I do remember that the tree was profiting from animals using its fruit/flowers. I just checked this out: http://www.crfg.org/pubs/ff/fig.html
a little, and still think spreading of pollinated seeds is possible, they are in the "fruit". I'll look into it deeper some other time.
Each time I feel sad to look at those flowers in WholeFoods... I think it is sad to look on them dying slowly on your eyes at home.
Water is inorganic. We need to drink it from fruits. Water in its inorganic state is literally food for trees...
Perhaps inorganic as in not very assimilable on it's own by the human body? I think we still need water, but through the fruit?@ Fruitarian: We need Sunlight to live but we do not eat directly the Sun. What we get is filtered sunlight.The same happen to water. We need water but better get it filtered through the labor of trees.Trees have the incredibile power to give life to inorganic stuff.We need to eat Life if we want to live.I do not recall last time I drank a glass of water.Usually it happens in the summer when I'm not hungry and dont feel like eating a fruit, but it's very rare u know...Try this: at morning, eat first of all an apple. Wait some time and then drink a glass of water. Tell me how u feel, tell me if u feel water like floating into ur guts.Fruit come with water, it is a complete food by definition. U do not need anything else.Lena, i read that sometimes u eat some cooked food also: I think u still feel the need to drink water cos ur body goes into acid U are not the first fruitarian/raw foodist that sometimes eat cooked vegan and u know, I still can't understand how u dont feel bad or disgusted by such dead stuff... I cannot even THINK to eat a steamed veggie or pasta or...anything else that's not fruit! Either raw or cooked.
I'm 8 months fruitarian and have been 1y and half high raw.
Do u know about the perils of cooked food?
U put ur body in serious danger everytime u ingest cooked food.
"We need water but better get it filtered through the labor of trees."
- I agree with each word of it!
"Usually it happens in the summer when I'm not hungry and dont feel like eating a fruit"
- the same for me, but in all seasons :)
Oh yes Alchemilla, each time I taste cooked vegan stuff or raw with spices I have immediate wish of water!
Yes, it is a social thing... I know no raw vegans (some are soon to be) nor fruitarians in real life, and very very few vegans... I refuse totally even for testing all non-vegan food (6 years ago I still have not reject cheese totally, and feel awful about that but can not change the past).
Good for you Tanya! 8 month is a good term - I wish you total success in a long run.
As for me I am not sure yet I am going to refuse to taste a spoon or piece
of something vegan if my friends offer me too. There is some greater
social good I still see in sharing vegan food especially with
Another example: two weeks ago I was sitting next to a non-vegan friend of mine while she was preparing vegetables for a soup and when she was finished, there were leaves left from the roots to throw away - I ate some of them. It is not fruitarian, and I don't buy not-fruit
vegetables nor sprout seeds, but in that moment it felt right.
I am going to follow the moral low in me, maybe it is going to change one day.
To be truthful I need to add that sometimes I do that for emotional reasons only:
1. because it seems to me to be the easiest way to disillusion myself about taste of an attractive type of food, by tasting I realize that the real non-fruit dish is not that delicious at all;
2. to understand again, that it influent my body and mind in a way I don't want too.
PS (by Lena): I was evaluating my "nutritional" mistakes
by making a timeline with exceptions in the past months and periods without them
, how I remember it, and decided to share them with you. I am already feel sorry for the readers - it may sound disappointing, it kind of was to me. I feel like I should not post it on a lfrv site, but I publish it here for the sake of honesty in sharing experience.
I am not counting occasional food tasting (tiny amounts). All other meals I had were fresh fruit (and little nuts seldom, lately - none).
I still don't know in each case, why exactly I did that.
Here it goes:
October 2008 - January 2009: 100%;
February: a small vegan dish - once;
(reason: made for me by a very good friend
March: brown rice (cooked) with cayenne, tofu with curcuma - few times;
(reasons: emotional crises
; attraction specifically to curcuma and cayenne, before eating them on other food I tried to drink them with water
May - July: 100%
(not sure; if there was an exception, then I just don't now what it was and when anymore);
August: corn chips (baked), carrots (raw) with humus (not-raw) - few times each;
September - mid October: carrots (raw), guacamole (raw, fresh, but spicy), cabbage (raw) - few times each;
(reason: by corn and cabbage it could be emotional attachment
, childhood memories, together with weakness after a coldness/flu, could be wish "to belong", because it was in a social situation
mid October - mid February 2010: 100% (and strictly mono-eating, experiment)
mid February - April: cabbage (raw) and some raw and non-raw vegetables, bread without yeast (felt not that bad as expected, but without big satisfaction - disappointment), green peas or artichokes (caned; felt very bad from both!) - all few times;
(reasons: by the first cabbage salad with other vegetables it was what I call a "taste crises" - fruits became way too sweet and "tasteless" to me at the same time, I became very sensitive to flavors of spices I recognized around me and I was unsatisfied in a strange way, so eating the salad felt good, but it was salty and made me feel pretty uncomfortable afterwords; as for others: traveling in places with too little ripe fruit evaluable, bad organization, nervousness
BTW, I felt worse emotionally when I had raw carrots and cabbage (not fruits, to eat them are against one of my main principles) than eating not raw peas (but they were way to salty or felt like that to me and it disturbed my water balance badly).