How to Handle Opposition & What to Keep in Mind for your Health
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What to do during the Muslim Ramadan month of fasting?
Assalamu Alaykum (peace be unto you all) and we would like to extend wishes for a happy, blessed, and healthy Ramadan, or should we say Rawmadan, for our Muslim members many of whom will be starting their month of fasting this Friday July 20, give or take where they live in the world.
For our non Muslim members, Ramadan is a month that Muslims, followers of the religion of Islam, will fast for about 29-30 days. They fast from sunrise to sunset. Food and drink may be taken during the pm and early am hours. Ramadan is a time of increased worship, of giving in charity, reducing consumption, and in learning sympathy for the poor people.
Keep in mind, this is not the kind of fasting that requires complete abstinence of food or calorie restriction. Only restraint is required during the day time hours possibly to achieve some spiritual or self disciplinary ends. Eating, calorie and drinking requirements are met in the pm and early am hours.
This blog post will demonstrate the following:
Lifestyle of Prophet Muhammad
Although not 100% fruitarian, Prophet Muhammad may have eaten a diet that closely resembles 811 himself, although his occasional eating of meat makes his diet resemble more that of primates.
His diet may have been naturally low fat as cooking oils would not have been in wide spread use during his lifetime. Olive oils may have been a valuable commodity for oil lamps.
Prophet Muhammad rarely ate meat, may be 3-4 times a year with Eid being an occassion he might indulge.
Muhammad may have been one of the earliest green activist as he discouraged cutting down trees unless there was a legitimate need and abusing animals. It was said that Muhammad had a cat and he might drink from the same water or eat from the same dish a cat had shared. He discouraged dressing excessively and or practicing consumption without need. He discouraged wastage of food and items. (1)
Prophet Muhammad ate mono meals! Which is classic advice we give to people around here. In fact, he only ate one type of food in one day. (2)
Food's of the Prophet's house included: a lot of dates which were and still are a food staple in the Arabian region, figs, cucumbers, melons, with the possibility of pomegranates. Onions and garlic were known foods to Muhammad as well.
Fruits and vegetables mentioned in the Quran, the holy book of Islam, are dates and date palms, olives, pomegranates, grapes, banana plants, figs, herbs, cucumbers, garlic, lentils, and onions. (3)
Prophet Muhammad may have followed a no grain diet himself, and rarely if ever ate bread, and discouraged others not to eat the refined bread of the rich man. His wives may have occasionally eaten bread made from course whole grains.
The household of Muhammad did not cook much, neither employed a cook. They were known to go for up to three months without a fire on the hearth. Some of this was because of hardships, and some of this was because of their generous nature of giving food away to the needy.
Following a 811 type of diet is nothing new in traditional Islam, and may actually be the way of the Prophet Muhammad.
Hydration Concerns in Ramadan
This is our recommendation to stay hydrated no matter what the circumstances as it is difficult to digest fruit on a dehydrated system.
When rising in the morning, and or about 10-20 minutes before a meal, drink 3-4 cups of water, or a quart or more. Let the water pass and to get the system properly hydrated as well as make room for fruit.
http://durianrider.org/2011/04/10/when-to-eat-for-max-life-performa...
For people practicing Islam during Ramadan, when getting up in the morning, drink 3-4 cups of water, and then other things can be done such as the night prayer or quran reading. Then eat ripe juicy fruits such as ripe oranges to promote hydration maintenance.
When breaking the fast, again, just drink about a quart of water, and then go for evening prayers. Once the prayers are done, the system will be properly hydrated and ready to digest and assimilate food.
Before sleeping, again drink 3-4 cups of water, and keep a bottle of water bedside.
Recommended Daily Routine in Ramadan
In the morning, before breakfast, drink about a quart of water. Perhaps wait about 10 minutes and recite some Quran or pray tahajjud, and then take some dates. Eat 5-10 bananas or 10 oranges, and up to 1000 calories of fruit are already eaten.
You may find you feel good because enough calories and carbohydrates have been taken to give you energy, these foods are high in nutrients, and low fat so that the body can assimilate the nutrients and oxygen, and of course, you are not dehydrated.
Take rest during the daytime fasting, especially if it is hot and the summer season where some of you live. Avoid training and heavy exercise during this month. If I have heard correct, there is enough exercise to be had during the evening taraveeh prayers:D
At the break of the fast, drink 3-4 cups of water and eat dates or drink a datorade! Go for prayers.
On your return, eat another 500-1000 calories of your favorite fruits.
At this time, you may want to eat an alkalizing green salad of 1-2 pounds of greens too, but if not, it could be eaten a few hours later. Do not forget the importance of eating greens even if it just 1/2 pound a day.
Before sleeping, drink another 3-4 cups of water, and keep a bottle of water by your bed for pm drinking.
And, Wallahi, you have your 2-3 quarts of water, and have easily consumed 2500-3000 calories during allowed eating times.
Get plenty of sleep during the night, and rest during the day. Because it is a fast, and or some of you are still new to 811, you may experience some detox symptoms. Avoid heavy training and workouts for this month, slow down and rest, and enjoy life, family, friends, and worship.
It is recommended to do heavy housecleaning and tend to major business before Ramadan starts so that one can rest in mind and body and focus on worship.
You may find that you feel better than ever, and better than some of your family and friends who are gorging on high fat fried foods, spicy foods, and animal products.
Sample Routine of One Member
Here is an example of how one of our members, Esra who commented here, has passed the first day of Ramadan and has also managed to add some yoga and fitness into the routine as well:
I did yoga (very meditative and relaxing - a new thing for me with yoga) for about 30 minutes right before Iftar.
For Iftar tonight I started with 1.5L of water, and then waited 20-30 minutes to eat. I started with 1 very large papaya, then 6 cut up bananas and 10 medjool dates, so around ~1500 cals. It took me 1 hour to eat all of this, I just ate it slowly and mindfully. By this time it was around 10:30pm.
I felt very energetic, and at 11:15pm I decided to do some exercises. I did some pretty good rope skipping, I always try to get to 1000 skips, and had no problem doing that. I downed 1L of water after that. Shortly after, I had a huge bowl of cherries, and then a banana/baby spinach smoothie. Both added up to ~600 cals.
Right now (2am) I'm finishing up another liter of water, and I will not be waking up for Suhoor, and will just sleep through till the morning. I think this is best because I am very full, and I think it's more beneficial if I just get a good night's sleep.
My calories for the day are ~2100cals, which is significantly lower than what I'm used to (at least 2500cals, usually more like 3000cals). But I guess this corresponds well with what I've done today, which is basically nothing other than just walking around the city in the morning, yoga, and then my rope skipping exercise.
Hope this helps someone. If I make any significant changes to this plan as the month progresses I will post. It's only the first day after all!
Good luck to all of you, and again, have a blessed, safe, and healthy Ramadan.
For any of you Muslim members out there who have passed a HCRV 811 Ramadan, please feel free to share your experiences and or pass on advice to others.
Also, those of you who have questions, feel free to ask.
Peace, PK
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Updated August 9, 2012 By PK
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Comment by PK on August 21, 2012 at 10:58am Eid Mubarrack Everyone!
Peace, PK
Comment by PK on August 13, 2012 at 4:07pm @Madiha, (and Lara), I will read and possibly comment more here tomorrow.
It is nice meeting you too Madiha.
My knowledge of the details of Islam is limited. I know some basics. As far as olive oil in the hadith, I am not familiar with that teaching. I know olives are mentioned in the quran.
However, in their whole raw form, eating a few olives as a supplement to our diet might be healthy. I am not talking about those pickled and salted olives we find in our local grocery stores either, rather raw and fresh.
Regarding how much food we eat (and I believe you asked a similar question on another discussion)
We really do not know much about the quantity of food that the Prophet Muhammad ate. Sure, I know he taught people to take a meal like 30% water 30% food, and 30% air. But we do not have much of an idea what that meant to him. We know he ate a lot of dates, and dates are very calorie dense.
For a female aiming for 2500 calories a day, that would mean about 38 medjool dates at about 65 calories each. If I eat 4 meals and snacks, that is about 9-10 dates a meal. Once we break it down this way, the volume of food really is not that much. 9-10 dates plus a glass of water about does the trick.
And, dates are very low fat. Supplementing such a diet with raw olives (not olive oil) may still keep the diet 811.
I think it is possible that Prophet Muhammad, on days he had access to good food, may have been eating close to our calorie counts and recommendations. And, as this blog post points out, many of his dietary choices were based on fruits and vegetables.
There was another hadith that stated "That for every disease there is a cure."
So what I can conclude from this is a prophecy that cures would be found for most diseases at some point in the future. Now I can tell you that doing an 811 fruitarian diet has cured many of my own ailments minus a damaged kidney. It can prevent many more. We have many testimonials here in the forum of diseases people have healed.
If mothers are healthy, then chances are the next generation will have less problem with genetic disorders and birth defects too.
The HCRV 811 diet may still have a ways to go as far as research and working out some kinks, but it is the closest thing the world has come to for fulfilling the prophecy for every disease there is a cure.
And one more thought to add to this is whether one believes that humans evolved from primates and or hominids, or that God created humans in a garden, in both scenarios, humans are portrayed as fruit and veggie eaters.
I hope these thoughts help you make your peace with this diet and our recommendations and your faith.
Peace, PK
Comment by Madiha Mostafa on August 13, 2012 at 3:04am @ Lara
Great response! I'm familiar as well with the notion that women were more mature 1400 years ago. But it's only one part of the arguement.
About over eating...when I first found out about 80/10/10, I thought how could I follow this the way harley and freelee do, when in Islam it's best to fill the stomach with 1/3 food? So all that talk about eating minimum 2500 calories on fruit and veggies and stretching my stomach...doesn't that go against Prophet Muhammad's teachings? The only thing I can think of that keeps me going is that food is not the same anymore and neither is the environment and it leaves me with no choice but to eat HCRV, and due to decades of deficient soil, I'd HAVE to eat 2500 calories minimum to get enough nutrients.
My question is..how does a muslim follow 811? I'm not criticizing the diet at all, I'm just looking for more information on how to make sense and peace with this diet while practicing my religion.
Do you think it's best to follow the Prophet's advice and consume less and eat humbly and leave my health up to Allah? Or to consider that things are different now? Or perhaps Allah didn't want us to be burdened furthermore with strict eating rules, therefore he didn't let us know the ideal diet for our bodies? Or am I mistaken for assuming anything about Allah which I don't know?
Do you see my struggle here? :P. How do you make sense of 811 while knowing that hadith you qouted.
Comment by Madiha Mostafa on August 11, 2012 at 4:58pm @PK or did I misunderstand the ayah?
Comment by Madiha Mostafa on August 11, 2012 at 4:57pm @PK Also...the last link you posted in the blog above...it mentioned in the first ayah there
"eat of its fruit when it bears fruit, and pay the due of it on the day of its reaping, and do not act extravagantly; surely he does not love the extravagant" (Chapter: 6 , Verse: 141, The Holy Quran)
Do you think this still applies in our time and age? Although the Quran is timeless...I mean how can we define extravagance in terms of food intake quantity? Esp on 811. What do you think about this? I've always wondered!
Comment by Madiha Mostafa on August 11, 2012 at 4:48pm PK I have a question.
I'm trying to make sense of low fat raw vegan, with use of the Quran. You know how it mentions the olive numerous times? And how it is stressed as a blessed creation? You would think it's due to the many health benefits. But what does that say about olive oil? What about the hadiths recommending the consumption of olive oil? Do you have an explanation? I'm curious to know.
Comment by Madiha Mostafa on August 11, 2012 at 4:38pm @PK @Lara but my comment about Aisha having been engaged before..I had meant that she was engaged to another man but it didn't work out, before Prophet Muhammad ever asked for her hand in marriage.
Comment by Madiha Mostafa on August 11, 2012 at 4:37pm @Lara @PK
Amazing comments! Thank you so much for your feedback and responses to me and Leisa as well! <3 <3. It's so nice to hear from well educated people such as you especially about Islam. A PLEASURE meeting you!
Ramadan Kareem :D.
Comment by PK on August 2, 2012 at 4:13am @Lara,
Thanks for your kind words and your explanations too.
I remembered that some words might get lost in the Arabic to English translation as well. For example, I knew someone from Palestine who had what was called a Nikkah.
The simple translation of the Arabic word Nikkah to English is marriage. However, it may not be so simple after all.
In some Muslim cultures, Nikkah is the marriage. For this person, Nikkah was only a promise of marriage, and engagement, but the person still lived in their father's house, not with the husband to be.
So it is possible that the Nikkah of Muhammad and Aishah has been mistranslated into English as marriage verses engagement.
In Pakistan, an Urdu speaking nation, Nikkah has mixed meanings. Some people will do a Nikkah similar to the Palestinian way. Sometimes the couple are kept separate until the wedding day, and sometimes they are permitted to move about as a dating couple.
For other Pakistanis, Nikkah is the marriage with the girl moving to her husband's home on the wedding day.
It has been recommended that before people judge Islam, they try to learn some Arabic to fully understand the culture and traditions of the time.
There is a famous book in print called The Bible The Quran and Science by Maurice Bucaille.
Bucaille was a French physician who worked for the Saudi Royal family. He made the same decision that to fully understand Islam, he would need to learn Arabic. This eventually led to him converting to Islam and writing his famous book.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maurice_Bucaille
Peace, PK
Comment by PK on August 1, 2012 at 10:12am @Madiha,
Thanks for your kind words.
And, thanks for your input regarding aisha. I have also read reports that at the time of the marital consumation, she may have been as old as 12 and or 16 too. Now I know that many people will still say that is too young, but if we look at western culture and society, girls are having conjugal relations as young as 12 outside of marriage, and or giving birth to children. Once a girl gets her period, she is a woman with all the female hormones and desires, and many of them do seek out a relationship.
Also, regarding Aisha, I have read many hadith from her, and and she seemed happy in her marriage, and told many stories such as you mentioned of playing with Muhammad, and what the day to day life was like in the house. Outside of some polygamous jealousy, she never complained about her marriage or criticized him as a husband. She also remained faithful to him after his death never remarrying, and took care of orphan children, and was a teacher of the Islamic traditions.
Peace, PK
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