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"Cold Stomach"

Started this discussion. Last reply by Bee Jan 29. 1 Reply

Ok so i went to a naturapath, i ve been having headaches teeth aches and other stuff going on . been raw for a while now 5 years with stuff ups but genereally on the rright path :).She says i have a…Continue

Dietian tells me 12 banana's too much for pancreac/ like 2 litres of coke !!!

Started this discussion. Last reply by michael ciarleglio Jul 6, 2012. 28 Replies

 So ive been having some health issues, i believe they have stemed from my b12 deficency which ive started to ment through regular injections.But i went to a dietian to stop my family breathing down…Continue

salicylate related health problems?

Started this discussion. Last reply by Mantika Oct 7, 2012. 5 Replies

  Hi guys im trying to get back my health after having a b12 deficiency, i ignored the ever increasing symptoms as i thought it was just detox but i couldnt keep up what i was doing i got so bad that…Continue

Need help!! rash from b12 injections..

Started this discussion. Last reply by Belle Cheshire Mar 26, 2012. 6 Replies

 Started taking Neo B12 injections little over a month ago, ive had 5 injections one weekly and they have definatelyhelped with my energy levels , i dont get headaches as much and i can get through…Continue

 

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Bee replied to Belle Cheshire's discussion "Cold Stomach"
"how many calories are you eating a day? sleep? water? how much fat do you eat? there are dozens of reasons that could be causing you to have headaches. i used to get tooth aches when i was eating fruit that was not fully ripe. chilli and garlic are…"
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"Cold Stomach"

Ok so i went to a naturapath, i ve been having headaches teeth aches and other stuff going on . been raw for a while now 5 years with stuff ups but genereally on the rright path :).She says i have a cold stomach and i need more warming foods chillie, ginger, garlic.. can anyone sheed some light on this , is there something in this , do we need warming food apparently there are a heap of blood vessels behind our stomachs that dont work properly if not stimulated by warming food????.Please…See More
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"Im not sure but am curious to find out too. How do you know you have it? What does the test involve. Thanks Belle"
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"Thank you Sunshine,  was lovely to watch and hear. "
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Belle Cheshire replied to Sanja's discussion Low B12 levels
"Thanks PK :)  "
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Belle Cheshire replied to Sanja's discussion Low B12 levels
"Hey pk could you convert 2 pounds into kgs for me? i think i need to eat more greens , but im not sure what 2 pounds of greens looks like thanks :) Sanja 135 is around what i was 5 months ago and i thought i was dying:)  seriously i had no…"
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At 7:01pm on April 26, 2012, Adam said…

Hey Belle,

I think it is important first to note that salicylate intolerance isn't an allergy. Allergies are immune mediated, whereas salicylate intolerance is more about of a sensitivity that is caused by the phenol  salicylate in foods. It might sound like just a semantic difference, but it really isn't. True allergies are not dose-dependent usually - any amount will cause a reaction. And usually, they are not fully reversible. The immune system will always react, no matter what.

With salicylates, because it is caused by the chemical, rather than the immune systems reactions, it is very much dose dependent. And the causes are often complex.

There can be a number of reasons why people develop salicylate sensitivity. Sometimes it is related to the way the liver is detoxifying salicylates. There are several aspects of liver detoxification, which are often separated into 2 common phases. These are all highly dependent on enzyme reactions and on adequate amounts of nutrients. At some point in liver detoxification, pretty much every nutrient you could think of is required for a reaction. Some nutrients are required in almost every phase. Since many of these nutrients are low in some peoples diets, and since many of these nutrients are competitively required in other parts of the body (eg. for digestion, for the nervous system, for the adrenals), this can become affected if there is a chronically inadequate nutrient supply.Especially if there is a history of stressors to the liver (eg. drugs, toxins etc).

Other reasons might be related to gut flora imbalances. Not only because detoxification can occur in the gut too, in response to gut flora levels, but also because some gut flora can actually produce small amounts of salicylates.

It may also be related to poor excretion of salicylates. So although there isn't a direct causal link between salicylate sensitivity and large intakes of salt, it is possible that for some people, if they are very dehydrated (which can occur with large intakes of salt), there is poor excretion of salicylates. Also, dehydration can also impair the integrity of cell membranes, which could perhaps make the cells more reactive to the salicylates.

Stress is also a common factor in all sensitivities. Often people with chronic stress can have more inflammation in the body anyway (because although stress hormones initially offers anti-inflammatory effects, over a long period of time certain inflammatory hormone like chemicals such as cytokines can promote inflammation). This can make the body more sensitive to additional stressors, and can also have an impact on elimination, blood flow and detoxification.

In reality there are so many reasons why someone might become sensitive to salicylates that it wouldn't be possible to cover all of them here without knowing personalised info. However, what I can say on a general basis, is that it is usually dose dependent. Often, people may need to cut certain foods out initially, to lower the overall load of phenols, since symptoms usually only arise once a threshold has been surpassed. Once the symptoms reduce consistently, then you may be able to introduce small or less frequent quantities of some or all of these foods. Usually with salicylates people react to some foods more than others. And not all of the time. 

As for "cure", I really don't know. If you can correct some of the underlying causes of why the body has become more sensitive, then it may be that the body can reduce its senstiivity to the salcicylates. But as I said, since it is not allergy mediated anyway, there is usually some tolerance to the foods as long as the dosage is not too high.

Take care

Adam x

At 1:45am on April 17, 2012, Ashley Whitaker said…

Hey sorry for such a late reply, I'm not going back to my dentist for my teeth problems because I'm hoping they go away on their own :)

I had not used toothpaste in so long, but I did buy some natural tooth powder, it says it's non abrasive and neutralizes the acids in your mouth so it sounded good to me. I find it helps with the natural staining which happened a little. My teeth aren't really sensitive anymore but near the gumline still has signs of acid erosion. I hope this helps a bit, how are your teeth?

At 1:27pm on August 29, 2011, Amy Apricot said…
hey :) frozen durian is delicious!  but i cant get it where i live anymore :(  it should be fine to eat occasionally
At 1:55pm on July 5, 2011, Eric Anderson said…
Thank you Belle!
At 1:26pm on May 30, 2011, Stephani Spitzer said…
Thank you for your sweet words! I'm honestly soooo happy I found this site. Folks seem genuinely eager to help, and even when they offer advice that might seem critical, it's done constructively, not cruelly. That's so important! Hope you're doing well <3
 
 
 

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