"When a leaf or stem is sliced, the plant signals pain by releasing the gas ethylene over its entire surface. Bombarding the gas molecules with laser beams produces a sound wave, which is picked up by laser microphones.
This isn't the…"
"Sodium is not bad. Sodium in too great a concentration can be bad, however.
What you see when wild animals do this is a form of natural supplementation. No wild animal acquires all the nutrients it needs from "food" alone. So, salt licks…"
"@The Humane Hominid, you got more patience than I do with this thread. "been there done that " all of my hair would by now and constant head shaking and tongue biting would ensue from repeating myself so much if i…"
"I've followed this thread on and off over the past couple of years. I never responded because your requirements seem a little steep considering out medium (an internet forum).
I will readily admit that I don't have the level of education…"
this thread has gone on for more than 2 yrs and imho you've done an excellent job handling it. while there have been some sensible posts at various point which oppose your viewpoint, most of the recent stuff from the 'other…"
your criticism of science is improperly applied here and actually demonstrates a variation of the inflation of conflict fallacy.
gov taking away rights is irrelevant to the present argument. while your claims here may well be correct, they…"
""science" LOL. I like how you imply science is on your side as if you have the higher ground just by saying the word. Science is a term created by man that states laws of certain observable Phenomenon about the world. By…"
"If they are not plants then they are not vegan.
Hrm, since all plants are algae, evolutionarily speaking, I'm not sure this logic applies. Plants possess all the characteristics of green algae, plus some stuff added on; it would be accurate…"
"Here are the most egregiously wrong errors from the article Sunshine posted, claiming that algae are actually animals:1) All so-called algae or seaweeds are made up of primitive animal cells called protists and are cyano-bacteria or flagellates -…"
For one thing, this link is to an article about the wrong species. Nori is derived from Porphyra, and is not a cyanobacteria.
For another thing, you're reading the taxonomic diagram you posted…"
"since cyano-bacteria or flagellates have always been classified as a simple primitive animal cells
Um, no, it has not. Ever.
Take it from someone who helps teach evolutionary biology at the university level,…"
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Also - why do you think someone like Colin Groves would go out of his way to say this about Left in the Dark:
“This is a totally new way of looking at the evolution of the human brain. It is so totally fresh, unexpected and hitherto un-thought-of that it will probably take a long time before evolutionary anthropologists and psychologists begin to take it on board; but it will make an impact, of that there is no doubt. It will be, it must be, taken very seriously in any discussion of human origins.”
I mean, the idea that our brains aren't functioning particularly well is one thing, and it's relatively easy to come up with a multitude of pretty good explanations as to why; but why would someone like him even consider that this would be because of a lack of fruit in our diet?
There's an increasing tendency on this site to regard Left in the Dark and its idea of recent frugivorous recent human ancestry (not sure if you've read the book - basically that sapiens evolved in a rainforest and all our direct ancestors as well, and that every single hominin fossil found is an "uncle", not a direct ancestor). It seems that people are completely oblivious to the non-existent evidence that these wild ideas are founded on.
I think that a thread discussing the real facts would be in order, something like your 911 thread but on human evolution. I'd start it myself, but you're better at both the facts and the argumentation. I could contribute though.
My personal take is that although it is pretty obvious that most people are emotionally and cognitively lopsided these days, and though our brains have been shrinking in the past 10,000 years or so, there's nothing to suggest that anything Tony says should be anywhere close to truth. To suggest that we owe our large brains simply to fruit chemistry is, well, you know what it is.
You have been asked before to keep your communications civil. You may disagree with others regarding 9/11, but please keep it polite. Calling Freelee's 9/11 thread, "the loonie thread" is over the line. Please follow the 30BAD guidelines:
There have been some recent studies confirming some neanderthal genes were passed on to the homo sapiens that left Africa - some genes have been found in populations outside Africa, while they haven't been found in genuinely African populations. Here's an article about one study:
Do you think it would be safe to assume neanderthals were better adapted to meat and seafood consumption than homo sapiens? They evolved in Europe after all, and probably consumed far more animal products than our ancestors. While the genetic mixing between them and our ancestors seems to have been pretty minor, I wonder if some modern populations might be a tad better adjusted to meat/seafood consumption. I'd value your opinion.