High Carb Cooked Vegan Discussions

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This is a group for those wanting to eliminate cooked foods from their diet OR for those follow a high carb cooked vegan lifestyle. Please keep all cooked food discussions to this group. Thank you!

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Some guidelines

Welcome! Feel free to talk about cooked VEGAN food here. We suggest you stick to discussing high carb cooked vegan foods like potatoes, root vegetables, rice with minimal dressing if any as they are the most healthful cooked food choices. Below is a transition diet I 'created' for those of you coming from a SAD lifestyle and wanting to make the switch to a high carb RAW vegan lifestyle.

Here are some guidelines that we support, put together by the super helpful PK

Cooking is for emergencies only such as financial reasons and or there is no ripe fruit available, then low fat cooked starches may be an acceptable back up plan.
It's always healthier to steam than any other cooked method.
Corn and Root vegetables digest better than grains like rice.
Always choose foods that are vegan and promote compassion towards our fellow earthlings. We do not support the discussion of non-vegan cooked foods in this group or on the 30BaD forum.
Avoid dairy products for compassionate and health reasons: http://www.notmilk.com/
Cooking denatures food. Try to plan for at least 75% of the diet to be raw fruits and leafy greens.
Cooked foods should still be low fat for weight control and cardiovascular health and optimum energy.
Continue to focus on high carb high calorie sources and the more nutrient dense, the better.
Fruits do not mix well with cooked foods and or grains. An idea is to eat fruit meals during the day, and perhaps end the day with a big salad and bowl of steamed rice.
Cooking should be simple, with as little processing and as few ingredients as possible, and foods should resemble their original states such as steamed broccoli verses cookies.
This is not a license to kill foods with salt and spices or to eat McDeaths french fries. A bowl of steamed rice is fine, hold the oil, salt, and spices.
Continue to follow other guidelines such as avoiding booze, tea, coffee, soda, drugs, etc. Read more here: http://www.rawfoodexplained.com/science.html
Cooking is for emergencies only, and not for a transition tool. We still recommend going 100% low fat raw fruit and leafy green for optimum digestion and health results. As we have said before, one cannot ride two horses (or bikes;D) with the same bum. For best results and to get over addictions, just do it 100% if and when possible.
While high carb cooked vegan fare makes for the best backup plan when we're not able to find delicious raw fruits and vegetables, the use of toxic ingredients defeats the benefits of this fallback position. Therefor, in all cooked-food discussions, we expect members to abide by our list of unsupported ingredients. If you're going to eat cooked vegan food, keep it simple: bare cooked potatoes or rice, steamed veggies and such.
Whenever possible, choose ripe fruits and leafy greens. Primates and humans cannot manufacture vitamin C, and must consume it in fruit and greens, or they may develop sub-clinical symptoms of scurvy which could include things like skin ulcerations and mouth infections. Grains and some beans do not have vitamin C, and some beans and potatoes that do have minimal amounts, may have the vitamin C rendered useless via cooking.
Continue to consider that some of the cheaper so called starch foods have little or no vitamin C, and are usually high in protein. These foods may cause an acid condition in the body that can contribute long term to arthritis, osteoporosis, tooth decay, kidney problems and kidney stones and cancer. Grains can also cause indigestion, Crohn's disease, irritable bowel syndrome, celiac disease, colitis, constipation, diarrhea, bloating, gas, and indigestion.
Again, it is recommended that as soon as circumstances allow, that one should resume eating a low fat raw fruit and tender leafy green based diet. For some folks, that may be as easy as downgrading the house and car payment.
To save a little money now and go the starch route, only to get sick and have to pay for doctors and medications later on is a decision one will have to ask themselves if it is worth the risk involved.

BTW, I have known millionaires and people making over 100K a year who cannot afford fruit because they are maxed out financially on the McMansions they have bought and the beamers and benzes they drive.

Thanks folks!

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Cooked Foods Because of My Family

Started by Fruityfull. Last reply by marnee 18 hours ago. 16 Replies 0 Likes

I have been going back and forth with 811 for the last 2 years and can't seem to stay on it for very long. I would have HUGE cooked food cravings and would give in a lot. Most of it was because I…Continue

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The Top 5 Tips To Losing Weight On A Cooked Vegan Diet

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After having been on a primarily fruit based diet with using starch as a backup for 2.5 years, I wanted to share with you the top 5 tips to maximizing your digestion and losing weight when eating a…Continue

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If still struggling with salt, lower calories for now??

Started by Kelly Kurcina. Last reply by Kelly Kurcina on Wednesday. 10 Replies 0 Likes

Hi Everyone! I am LOVING the raw till 4 program, but still struggle w/ salt. I figure that I am ok to take this in baby steps b/c I am proud that I have not touched animal flesh/dairy/oils, etc. in…Continue

White Rice - Weight Gain???

Started by Lux. Last reply by Isa May 18. 8 Replies 1 Like

Can white rice make you gain FAT?It's nearly all CARBS, so how could it? But I swear that when I eat it I get fatter. I don't really weigh myself, but I feel puffed out all over the next day or…Continue

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Comment by Sophia Shanez on February 8, 2013 at 2:20am: Hey, R. I'm also thinking about getting emancipated, though I'm not sure how to find a stable job. Anyways, you can start by "sneaking" a bit of bananas into other fruit smoothies and meals. You can start with just 1 chunk of banana at a time if you'd like. Try that for a while and gradually add more bananas to your meals. Good luck :)

Comment by R. on February 7, 2013 at 6:09pm: Hello. I am in a tough family situation, being a minor, and currently trying to get emancipated for a number of reasons. Because of parental limitations, despite self funded diet, perfect blood tests, and increased energy and inner peace, I have gone to a Mcdougall style diet which is free of salt and oil but not as high in fruits in vegetables as i would like. That would be 100%. I am in need of some support to get beck on this path, because it is so effective in mitigating my depression and helping me help others and be the best I can. My current goal is to get back a steady job, and alternative food collection methods (dumpsters, volunteering at a CSA, etc.) and increase the fruits and vegetables I am eating, limit grains to emergency situations, and as remains for example, eat a meal of banans, a meal of raisins, (more water than currently) some apples or pears, and for dinner, a good amount of fresh or frozen green and yellow vegetables with potatoes, sweet potatoes, squash, corn, and peas. I eat a large quantity in comparaison to most people I know, but am a good weight, and despite mental health issues caused from stress, personal life, lack of sleep, etc, which I am trying to work on, and insecurity about my future and values that are constantly bombarded by close to everyone but hey what do you expect.... The carbs are wonderful, and upping the fruit and veg always works wonders in bringing me to balance, so I would like to stick to it. One side note, ater constant neglect and issues with my mother regarding raw veganism a while back (which was not very strict) and ongoing about my "inflexible diet" some issues have left me... I am embarrassed to say, traumatized or afraid to eat bananas.I kind of want to do a banana Island to help overcome this. I love bananas, at one point, I ate at least twenty each day, but I have not eaten one whole banana for months. Any advice?

Comment by FruityVeg on January 28, 2013 at 6:21am: Hi, here is another simple complete meal, with raw and cooked food. The chunky salsa can be replaced with your own homemade salsa to avoid the added chemicals in the store bought, I hope you like it...I loved it and it filled me up, but still left space for a fruity dessert :) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3oVzOVI8VQ

Comment by FruityVeg on January 23, 2013 at 5:14pm: Video of low fat "Spaghetti" Salad with squash and steamed vegetables at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aj6d3d2hDjY :)

Comment by Kayla Marie on January 10, 2013 at 7:14am: Thanks Diane! Hopefully that will be my next step :)

Comment by Diane L on January 8, 2013 at 11:48pm: I'm currently doing the 30 day banana girl challenge but I'm happy to support you in any way I can. :). Great idea.

Comment by Kayla Marie on January 8, 2013 at 1:17pm: Hi everyone! I want to start a 30 day 100% High Carb Vegan Challenge. This would be like Freelee suggests: having 2 fruit meals a day and 1 high-carb, cooked vegan meal in the evening. I'm thinking of having Day 1 on the 13th or 14th of this month. Please message me if you are interested in joining me! My body really needs this and it could be what will ultimately help me transition to a raw lifestyle (if that's what my body wants after 30 days!) Support would be very much appreciated. Thank you!!

Comment by Fruityfull on December 31, 2012 at 2:07am: I have been going back and forth with 811 for the last 2 years and can't seem to stay on it for very long. I would have HUGE cooked food cravings and would give in a lot. Most of it was because I still had to cook meals for my family (we all have been vegan for 8 years) as they would not incorporate this lifestyle into theirs. Anyone else have this experience? How can you stop the cravings when you HAVE to cook foods? My only solution so far is to make sure there is high carb low fat cooked food in the meal so if I crave it, I can at least eat it and not feel as guilty. I do really well during the day and eats lots of fruit and greens. Any other advice would be appreciated.

I would like to add that my partner will do the cooking for the family a lot but when he does, he just cooks mainly junk foods like Boca fake chicken patties and french fries. So I feel that I need to cook so my family can eat healthier meals.

Comment by mangolicious on December 19, 2012 at 6:03pm: Kaitlyn, check out blog.fatfreevegan.com

Comment by Kaitlyn Thomas on December 19, 2012 at 3:03pm: Ok. I am looking for some cooked vegan recipes to give to my little brother and mom because my mom wants to be healthier and I am worried about my brother. My dad is a complete meat head and id steering my brother in the wrong direction. Any recipes y'all have in mind?