High Carb Cooked Vegan Discussions

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This is a group for those wanting to eliminate cooked foods from their diet OR for those follow a high carb cooked vegan lifestyle. Please keep all cooked food discussions to this group. Thank you!

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Some guidelines

Welcome! Feel free to talk about cooked VEGAN food here. We suggest you stick to discussing high carb cooked vegan foods like potatoes, root vegetables, rice with minimal dressing if any as they are the most healthful cooked food choices. Below is a transition diet I 'created' for those of you coming from a SAD lifestyle and wanting to make the switch to a high carb RAW vegan lifestyle.

Here are some guidelines that we support, put together by the super helpful PK

Cooking is for emergencies only such as financial reasons and or there is no ripe fruit available, then low fat cooked starches may be an acceptable back up plan.
It's always healthier to steam than any other cooked method.
Corn and Root vegetables digest better than grains like rice.
Always choose foods that are vegan and promote compassion towards our fellow earthlings. We do not support the discussion of non-vegan cooked foods in this group or on the 30BaD forum.
Avoid dairy products for compassionate and health reasons: http://www.notmilk.com/
Cooking denatures food. Try to plan for at least 75% of the diet to be raw fruits and leafy greens.
Cooked foods should still be low fat for weight control and cardiovascular health and optimum energy.
Continue to focus on high carb high calorie sources and the more nutrient dense, the better.
Fruits do not mix well with cooked foods and or grains. An idea is to eat fruit meals during the day, and perhaps end the day with a big salad and bowl of steamed rice.
Cooking should be simple, with as little processing and as few ingredients as possible, and foods should resemble their original states such as steamed broccoli verses cookies.
This is not a license to kill foods with salt and spices or to eat McDeaths french fries. A bowl of steamed rice is fine, hold the oil, salt, and spices.
Continue to follow other guidelines such as avoiding booze, tea, coffee, soda, drugs, etc. Read more here: http://www.rawfoodexplained.com/science.html
Cooking is for emergencies only, and not for a transition tool. We still recommend going 100% low fat raw fruit and leafy green for optimum digestion and health results. As we have said before, one cannot ride two horses (or bikes;D) with the same bum. For best results and to get over addictions, just do it 100% if and when possible.
While high carb cooked vegan fare makes for the best backup plan when we're not able to find delicious raw fruits and vegetables, the use of toxic ingredients defeats the benefits of this fallback position. Therefor, in all cooked-food discussions, we expect members to abide by our list of unsupported ingredients. If you're going to eat cooked vegan food, keep it simple: bare cooked potatoes or rice, steamed veggies and such.
Whenever possible, choose ripe fruits and leafy greens. Primates and humans cannot manufacture vitamin C, and must consume it in fruit and greens, or they may develop sub-clinical symptoms of scurvy which could include things like skin ulcerations and mouth infections. Grains and some beans do not have vitamin C, and some beans and potatoes that do have minimal amounts, may have the vitamin C rendered useless via cooking.
Continue to consider that some of the cheaper so called starch foods have little or no vitamin C, and are usually high in protein. These foods may cause an acid condition in the body that can contribute long term to arthritis, osteoporosis, tooth decay, kidney problems and kidney stones and cancer. Grains can also cause indigestion, Crohn's disease, irritable bowel syndrome, celiac disease, colitis, constipation, diarrhea, bloating, gas, and indigestion.
Again, it is recommended that as soon as circumstances allow, that one should resume eating a low fat raw fruit and tender leafy green based diet. For some folks, that may be as easy as downgrading the house and car payment.
To save a little money now and go the starch route, only to get sick and have to pay for doctors and medications later on is a decision one will have to ask themselves if it is worth the risk involved.

BTW, I have known millionaires and people making over 100K a year who cannot afford fruit because they are maxed out financially on the McMansions they have bought and the beamers and benzes they drive.

Thanks folks!

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Cooked Foods Because of My Family

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I have been going back and forth with 811 for the last 2 years and can't seem to stay on it for very long. I would have HUGE cooked food cravings and would give in a lot. Most of it was because I…Continue

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The Top 5 Tips To Losing Weight On A Cooked Vegan Diet

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After having been on a primarily fruit based diet with using starch as a backup for 2.5 years, I wanted to share with you the top 5 tips to maximizing your digestion and losing weight when eating a…Continue

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If still struggling with salt, lower calories for now??

Started by Kelly Kurcina. Last reply by Kelly Kurcina on Wednesday. 10 Replies 0 Likes

Hi Everyone! I am LOVING the raw till 4 program, but still struggle w/ salt. I figure that I am ok to take this in baby steps b/c I am proud that I have not touched animal flesh/dairy/oils, etc. in…Continue

White Rice - Weight Gain???

Started by Lux. Last reply by Isa May 18. 8 Replies 1 Like

Can white rice make you gain FAT?It's nearly all CARBS, so how could it? But I swear that when I eat it I get fatter. I don't really weigh myself, but I feel puffed out all over the next day or…Continue

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Comment by Jon Fergus on March 28, 2013 at 11:52am: Hi everyone. Freelee just finished uploading her video on the RAW TILL 4 program. She outlines a great way to incorporate both raw and cooked high carb foods into your daily routine and to maintain solid health over the long term. The points she runs through will help everyone meet their goals even if they're not able to go fully raw at this time.

Comment by Danny on March 19, 2013 at 12:20pm: @Lailah I also noticed that. I'm still transitioning after 9 months

Comment by Lailah Morid on March 19, 2013 at 12:08pm: I just saw her first video, does anybody know if she made Part 2 where she talks about fully transitioning to an uncooked diet? I perused her YT channel, but didn't see it.

Comment by Rowenajk on March 19, 2013 at 9:00am: @kayla Marie Thank you for your message. You are totally right about that. Sometimes i like to know what the 'rules' are but of course moderation is fine.

Comment by Kayla Marie on March 19, 2013 at 2:25am: @Rowenajk, I think that is up to you to personally decide! I'm guessing she didn't mention them because beans and lentils are typically high in protein, and the 80/10/10 diet tries to keep both fat and protein low. The foods she mentioned are the foods you should be getting the BULK of your calories from, so if you can eat some beans and lentils and keep your protein percentage under 10, I don't see why that would be a problem. But that is my personal opinion!! Hope that helped! :)

Comment by Rowenajk on March 18, 2013 at 2:35pm: I have watched Freelee's video on ideal foods other than raw fruit - eg. cooked Sweet potato & sugar products. Does anybody know about Lentils & Legumes? Are these exceptable transition foods? She did not mention them. Any help will be great thank you.

Comment by Danny on February 23, 2013 at 9:08am: best way to eat a sweet potato: boiled and then completely cooled in the fridge :) try it, it's like a ripe plantain! yum

Comment by Paul on February 19, 2013 at 3:58am: Good luck Rhonlynn. I've been vegetarian for over 2o years. Over the past year I've been vegan for the most part with a lot more raw and its great. I'm not super rigid. I think slow permanent change is better than the yo yo that often happens. All the best to you while you transition.

Comment by Rhonlynn on February 19, 2013 at 2:19am: I love vegan food and raw food. I'm 50, and have been swaying towards vegan.I have a friend who is 62 and us grateful for 80-10-10. I say I'm 95% raw. That works for me. I'm trying to increase my fruit intake. I work out about 4 times a week. Ordering 80-10-10. I'm taking raw food classes online from the Rawtarian. It's the best thing I could do for myself, besides the gym. I bought all kinds of staples in bulk yesterday (geez, forgot bananas!). And I truly believe that people don't eat enough calories when they eat clean vegan. I'm 95% raw vegan cause I like seafood, and I like my food warmed.....I don't like my round dehydrator, so the next thing I'm replacing is my round dehydrator.

Comment by R. on February 17, 2013 at 6:51am: Thanks Sophia... I am also considering changing my legal guardian. It is SO stressful at home and has been for the past year and a half. This leads to depression, and hopelessness.

I would like to eat this way, however, there are bigger obstacles in my health right now than potatoes and peas, so I will likely wait until I am out of the house to get back into raw foods.

My parents are forcing me into a partial hospitalization program for two weeks for diagnosis where they send suicidal kids and people that are violent or have other psychological issues. This is because they refused to get me a therapist for several months and then got me one. I couldn't make the appointment, because I was working. That is literally it. Its like elementary school and prison combined.... not that school is not prison. There is nothing I can do:(

What do you want to do, like career wise.

I can share some ideas on alternative lifestyles and ways to get your food and shelter and minimize all costs.

I wonder if I will be able to make some money off of my art...

My parents are going on sabbatical to korea and want to take me there... for a year, and are telling me I have no choice:( My goal is to go to Ireland and go WWOOFING with a friend so save up for the tickets and a sleeping bag.

How is it for you? What is your situation like??

Yeah, I have no problem blending them up, but my parents will throw them away when I buy them so generally I don't eat them. Eating them alone... its weird, I get so stressed I don't want to think of it... once I am out of home!