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Weightlifting and Bodyshaping

This group is for lfrv who are endeavoring to strengthen muscles for performance or aesthetic reasons.

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Powerlifting journal May 3rd meet

Started by Justin Morgan. Last reply by Justin Morgan on Tuesday. 9 Replies

I'm starting a powerlifting journal today.  My meet is on May 3rd, so I've pretty much built all the strength that I can (or close to it) for now.  I've dramatically altered my weekly routine to only…Continue

lifting is my favorite.

Started by Joelle Boustany. Last reply by Joelle Boustany Apr 17. 2 Replies

Hey im new to this group, bodybuilding is right up my alley and I just had to join :) I lift heavy and I run fast...those are my fav things to do! :) id love to learn any eating tips for optimal…Continue

The Unavoidable Protein Question

Started by Raw Vegan Training (Mike). Last reply by Kate Florio Mar 21. 1 Reply

I've been vegan for 13 years and still can't get away from the "how do you get enough protein?" question. It's crazy. I've been doing high raw 801010 since last spring and I get that question even…Continue

Tags: protein, bodybuilding, 801010, highcarb

Mike Mentzer/30bad and an alternative health paradigm

Started by KevinRAW. Last reply by VegaNate Mar 10. 1 Reply

We here at 30bad already exist on a nutrition paradigm that contradicts 99.99% of what the world describes as proper nutrition, yet somehow we are all (or at least most of us) thriving! What good is…Continue

Tags: raw, vegan, paradigm, bodybuilding, mentzer

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Comment by The Vegan Gladiator on June 19, 2013 at 4:57am

@adam i rarely eat overt fats and my muscle recovery is fast.

Comment by Mike Vlasaty/Fruit and Strength on June 7, 2013 at 3:04am

anyone want to be in a strongman competition or see one, I'll be competing in Huntington Indiana's YMCA Heritage Days Strength Challenge on June 23, 2013.


Comment by Armando Martinez on June 7, 2013 at 2:35am

@Chris Heyman
I tried doing floor presses with my barbell but chickened out when the stand I had the bar on started to wiggle. I just do plyo push ups and dips between some barrels I have in my yard.


Yoga is awesome! I need to start doing it again, I just felt so good after it. I'll throw in a session or two per week and see how that works out.


I'm always hungry too. It seems that no matter how much raw fruit and veggies I eat I can't stay full for more than 2 hours. If I eat raw all day I can consume an upward of 5000 calories (and still be a little hungry) but if I have a cooked vegan meal in the afternoon I feel good with 3000 calories. I have daily weight fluctuations, probably due to water retention? Lets say I eat 100% raw fruits and veggies, I'll wake up around 2-3lbs lighter than usual. With cooked food for my last meal, I will wake up at my "normal" weight. Not sure how that works out seeing how I eat more calories eating raw, probably does have to do with digestion and absorbtion.

@William Goering

Thanks for that, good to know!


Well if you are feeling good and seeing progress then thats what counts.

Comment by TheFruitWarrior on June 7, 2013 at 12:24am

Hey Will,

I am so happy to hear that!  Thank-you for the input.

Comment by William Goering on June 7, 2013 at 12:11am
You will adapt after a while. Being full on fruit and salad is little diffrent than potatoes and all that heavy stuff
Comment by TheFruitWarrior on June 6, 2013 at 11:06pm

I am always hungry though.  I am new, so perhaps my digestion is not as good yet and I do actually need that amount in order for my body to absorb nutrients.  Lets say I only assimilating 50% of what I am eating right now.  50% of 4000 is 2000 calories.  

Who knows, but the bottom line is that I am always hungry right now.  Did anyone else experience this when they first went fruit based.  The cooked potato meal I am eating at night while my bananas ripen is the only thing that fills me and keeps me full.  Probably b/c it is hard to digest.  Butttt I would love to hear what people have to say.

Comment by The Vegan Gladiator on June 6, 2013 at 5:14pm

idk about all that massive amount of calories 4k+ unless your burning that much. because you can only put on so much muscle mass. i dont think that just because you eat more your going to put more mass on any faster. im 5'8 @ 145 so 3k-3.5k calories is good because i know im not burning that much.

Karl Ess is a low fat vegan bodybuilder and i think he said he eats around 3k-3.2k calories hes the biggest lowfat vegan bodybuilder i have seen so far.

Comment by TheFruitWarrior on June 6, 2013 at 10:47am

Oh... you guys are lower than I would have thought.  But it's working for you guys so that is great.  Once I get an ID, from the University I am visiting, and then a gym membership w/ said ID, I am starting up again.  Just got back from a trip and then had end of semester before that.  Have not had a real good routine for 2 years.  So frustrating.

But about your calories, that is encouraging to me b/c I was thinking to weight lift and put on mass I would need 5,000+.  I am only planning on weightlifting 30-40 mins a day 6 days a week.  So then I should be fine at 4,000 increasing slowly as I put on lean muscle mass.  I did not want to have to eat more b/c it gets expensive.  

Comment by Kelly on June 6, 2013 at 10:37am
Im always panicking that im not getting enough cals with my activity level. 130lb female lifting 5x week for an hour, usually heavy. Typically supersets or circuits then an hour of cardio earlier in the day. Other 2 days of the week are for one easy cardio day and stretching and one day of total rest. Im netting around 2,100-2,500 cals on lifting days and netting around 2,000 on rest day.
All 80/10/10 with maybe 1 cooked dinner per week.
Does it seem like im getting enough? Im still playing around with things but i am feeling good
Comment by Sage of Dissolution on June 6, 2013 at 9:52am

@Armando Martinez, I lift three times per week, with MetCon after two of them, and 45-60 minutes of yoga after all of them.  My sessions usually last about an hour an a half, not including walking to the gym, and stretching.  On non-lifting days, I walk and practice yoga.  My recovery time is pretty fabulous! =)  I see slow (slooowwwwwwwwww), but steady, body progress, and my lifting gains are about average.

If this helps at all, I am a woman, and average around 3000 calories on lifting days, 2800 on non-lifting days.


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