Review of the first Zeitgeist film

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Permalink Reply by Nicolas on February 10, 2012 at 11:38am

Nice write-up, Alison! Thanks for spreading the information and your sentiments on it all.

Personally, given my understanding of the matters touched upon, I find the best bits, factually speaking, to be the part on religion in the first film, and pretty much the entire third film. On the whole, however, it is all quite thought-provoking and moving, and now we've got a fourth installment (Zeitgeist: Beyond the Pale) to anticipate - plus, I recently heard in an interview with Peter Joseph that there are plans for a fifth film, which is supposed to be the final one from him (for this particular series) - and these last two will apparently be more cinematic than the previous ones, and be more like live-action films.

"After watching the first film we are angry, we are downright f***ing outraged. This is the first step.  GET ANGRY." Howard Beale concurs!

Permalink Reply by Alison Andrews on February 11, 2012 at 10:20pm

Thanks Nicolas!

I'm really looking forward to the 4th film!  And yes totally agree with you, the parts on religion were awesome and I LOVED the third film - review of that is coming up!

Permalink Reply by Fennec on February 11, 2012 at 10:47pm

I've seen the first Zeitgeist film and was not impressed. The references to Christianity were in fact all references to Roman Catholocism which is actually the beast power forewarned about in the bible. It is completely non-biblical. The sabbath day is the seventh day sunset Friday to sunset Saturday.

The word Sun and Son are not the same in the original languages.

The references to astrology are incorrect as it is based on modern astrology and in Hebrew astrology there weren't even 12 signs.

It is true that Rome controls the world through her many agents, but that's what God is to destroy. Chiefly the Jesuits have the world in their hands now. They infiltrated freemasonry and such. You know bonfire night is all a celebration about how a Jesuit plot to kill King James and sabotage the release of the King James bible for protestants world-wide to see what it actually says.

But sadly even today 400 years later the vast majority of people believe the bible says what Roman Catholocism represents. It doesn't. Read the Catechism. They clearly state they can change the bible to mean whatever they want.

The cannon was established long ago. The apocryphal books were actually introduced and forged by Rome to try to introduce new doctrines. They even have writings admitting they have made these false books.

Please people do not look upon the harlot in revelation and confuse her with what the bible actually says. The bible is ultimately about Jesus. If you have read it you can't deny Jesus is awesome; whether you believe he is fictional or real.

One of the chief lies of Rome is eternal torment. The bible does not teach that. It teaches destruction. It also teaches that the dead are dead, in a dreamless sleep as it were. The destruction which is often made out to be eternal torment is a second death, after a resurrection.

The bible actually advocates veganism too. It simply says if you insist on eating animals, here is the list of the ones that aren't too bad for you, the rest are unconceivable for eating. Note I am not advocating eating animals here.

Look back at Daniel and his friends, all vegans. Samson; his parents were told to not feed him any meat and he was the strongest man ever. There's actually a boxer this century who was vegetarian and had some amazing boxing achievements and strength records (not that two guys beating eachother until one gets knocked out is a good thing).

But seriously get a full picture before making decisions. There are plenty of videos with even 12 year olds spot on refuting Zeitgeist's simplisticly wrong stance on the bible.

Remember who runs universities, schools etc. They all started out as monastery schools generally and new ones came from the same kind of organisations. Jesuits are behind so much.

• Voltaire - Jesuit
• The writer of Mein Kampf - Jesuit
• Marx's instructors - Jesuits
• Darwin and his eugenecist family - Jesuits

I hope this isn't received in any wrong way. It's just hard to see so much error around.

And there are some elements of truth in that video, if applied to Roman Catholocism not biblical Christianity. Also about the economy and such. The solution given, I wouldn't agree with. Getting angry is what they want.

They want the lower classes crying out for the rich (lol) middle classes destruction, thus everyone becomes lower class and completely controlled with no chance to start their own businesses or anything.

Lots and lots of small businesses = vibrant economy and prosperity for all. Such a shame that so many laws are purposely introduced to hamper the creation and operation of them.

Anyway sorry, I've gone off track. We probably see the same problems in the world, but look through a different glass.

Permalink Reply by vegan witch Ⓥ on February 12, 2012 at 7:26pm

I've seen the first Zeitgeist film and was not impressed. The references to Christianity were in fact all references to Roman Catholocism which is actually the beast power forewarned about in the bible.

ive read your fictional story book bible and i was not impressed - 

are you aware of  how many trees were cut down + how many aniamals were murdered and skinned for its cover for this fictional story.

it accounts for a large part of our planet being rapped bare for it

do you how many witches were tortured & murdered because of the extreme beliefs created by it.

it is fact that the isriel people are still killing each other of this hebrew mythology.

no madam - i am not impressed with the choice of religion or the deity you worship.

 

It is completely non-biblical. The sabbath day is the seventh day sunset Friday to sunset Saturday.

i disagree - it all depends what flavor of month christian you are.

and by the way - friday was named after the norse goddess frig - Saturday was named after the roman god saturnus and sunday was named after the sun.

 

The word Sun and Son are not the same in the original languages.

do you know what transliteration means ?

TRANSLITERATE - write or print using the closest correspoinding letters of a different alphabet.

your bible has been transliterated from cover to cover approx 900 times not including part transliterations through the ages.

 

The references to astrology are incorrect as it is based on modern astrology and in Hebrew astrology there weren't even 12 signs.

again madam - you know very little about your religions history please educate yourself.

 

It is true that Rome controls the world through her many agents, but that's what God is to destroy.

madam - rome doenst have a sex - and your male deity you selfishly call "god" has a name yhwh or jehovah also the world god is not found in any origional texts - again please educate yourself on the history of your religion and your modern bibe.

 

Chiefly the Jesuits have the world in their hands now. They infiltrated freemasonry and such. You know bonfire night is all a celebration about how a Jesuit plot to kill King James and sabotage the release of the King James bible for protestants world-wide to see what it actually says.

But sadly even today 400 years later the vast majority of people believe the bible says what Roman Catholocism represents. It doesn't. Read the Catechism. They clearly state they can change the bible to mean whatever they want.

The cannon was established long ago. The apocryphal books were actually introduced and forged by Rome to try to introduce new doctrines. They even have writings admitting they have made these false books.

Please people do not look upon the harlot in revelation and confuse her with what the bible actually says. The bible is ultimately about Jesus.

your above comment is verbal diarrhoea - i dont want to insult your intelligence but its getting very hard for me not to.

 

If you have read it you can't deny Jesus is awesome; whether you believe he is fictional or real.

two words - hebrew mythology just like any other mythology.

 

One of the chief lies of Rome is eternal torment. The bible does not teach that. It teaches destruction. It also teaches that the dead are dead, in a dreamless sleep as it were. The destruction which is often made out to be eternal torment is a second death, after a resurrection.

The bible actually advocates veganism too. It simply says if you insist on eating animals, here is the list of the ones that aren't too bad for you, the rest are unconceivable for eating. Note I am not advocating eating animals here.

ALL ANIMALS ARE BAD FOR YOU TO EAT - THIS IS A SCIENTIFIC FACT

 

Look back at Daniel and his friends, all vegans. Samson; his parents were told to not feed him any meat and he was the strongest man ever. There's actually a boxer this century who was vegetarian and had some amazing boxing achievements and strength records (not that two guys beating eachother until one gets knocked out is a good thing).

But seriously get a full picture before making decisions.

no madam - you are the one that shows lack of education here.

 

There are plenty of videos with even 12 year olds spot on refuting Zeitgeist's simplisticly wrong stance on the bible.

Remember who runs universities, schools etc. They all started out as monastery schools generally and new ones came from the same kind of organisations. Jesuits are behind so much.

• Voltaire - Jesuit
• The writer of Mein Kampf - Jesuit
• Marx's instructors - Jesuits
• Darwin and his eugenecist family - Jesuits

I hope this isn't received in any wrong way. It's just hard to see so much error around.

And there are some elements of truth in that video, if applied to Roman Catholocism not biblical Christianity.

what  definition of biblical christianity madam are you referring to - 

modern book for neo christianity

the jewish torah 

the book of any religion

or the bible of french cooking ?

 

Also about the economy and such. The solution given, I wouldn't agree with. Getting angry is what they want.

They want the lower classes crying out for the rich (lol) middle classes destruction, thus everyone becomes lower class and completely controlled with no chance to start their own businesses or anything.

Lots and lots of small businesses = vibrant economy and prosperity for all. Such a shame that so many laws are purposely introduced to hamper the creation and operation of them.

again you need to look at your religion  - Exodus 22:18: "Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live" and Leviticus 20:27: "A man or woman that hath a familiar spirit, or that is a wizard, shall surely be put to death: they shall stone them with stones." to name only a few of many murderous dictates you religion orders you to do but states thou shalt not kill - WTF .

 

Anyway sorry, I've gone off track. We probably see the same problems in the world, but look through a different glass.

you keep using the word god as if your religion owns its meaning - the old english word god being masculine is mated with its other femaile half = goddess, just like the words priest & priestess, shepard & shepardess, god & goddess

 

yhwh or jehovah are the names of your deity - the word god belongs to the ENGLISH LANGUAGE not your relgion.

 

for your information the word hell came from the norse goddess of the underground, another word stolen by your relgion.

 

it seems your religion has broken one of its most important rules - thou shalt not steal.

   

i could have let your misinformed comment slide but i felt it needed addressing to a minimal degree (i hope you appreciate the minimal part because i wanted to say much more)

 

it would be pertinent & respectful of you to graciously remove yourself from this zeitgeist group and join one suitable to your religious beliefs.