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Comment by wrath of grapes on November 28, 2010 at 7:51am

just did my first run in saucony kinvaras today. been loggin about 50 miles a week in my green silence and theyre literally starting to decompose (the only problem with nearly compostable shoes). i also like the mt100 designed by tony krupicka a lot. the kinvaras felt strange to me because it still feels a lot like a standard running shoe. i had a hard time interacting with the ground. this should change though. ive been doing about 10 miles a week barefoot, but as the leaves start to take over the sidewalks its getting a bit more dangerous. anyone else used a variety of minimal shoes? im all about hearing some feedback on which ones work better for people.

Comment by oriana on November 27, 2010 at 4:27am

I used to get injured every 3 months or so from who knows what from. I have been changing my shoes when running ever time I run so I have 3 sets of running shoes. I have heard the best for running marathons are New Balance 905's. SO far I haven't had an injury in the last 6 months. I run 6-10 miles every week and never have a rest day.

Comment by Mark Alan Taylor on November 27, 2010 at 1:58am

As far as running barefoot on a treadmill, I have done it, and I don't know if it is the same for everyone, but when I run on a treadmill my stride changes. As I run barefoot to correct my form this would not be advantageous.
With overstriding height or length of legs has little to do with it, it is the name given to a stride in which the foot contacts the ground to far in front of the body causing a heel strike and a compressing breaking action. Chi or form running may be better for you in the cold, both revolve around keeping a straight line head, hips, ankles, then leaning forward, your front foot falling directly under your center of gravity, to support your weight, not drag your body past the ground. (believe it or not you can still run very fast this way, Though I prefer barefoot because I feel it gives me my natural gait). Competitive and professional runners suggest increasing your stride rate to between 90-105 steps per minute to shorten your stride an prevent overstriding, this will naturally occur with any of the mentioned methods. Stride rate is the method I would use on a tread mill as it is easier to moniter with the treadmill adjusted form.
As far as switching out shoes industry suggests every 4-6 hundred miles, I think this is more important if you are wearing shoes with support features, as I don't believe in the need for such support I wear minimal shoes and typically run the soles off of them( the exception being if the tread is wearing terribly uneven as this will help you keep negative running paterns). If you do use supportive shoes I would change them out more because over time the support will become unbalanced.

Comment by Mark Alan Taylor on November 27, 2010 at 12:42am

The ChiRunning advice is good I had good luck with it when I decided to run my first marathon. If you are having knee or back issues when running, as far as my own experience it has to do with over striding. When training for my first marathon I discovered actual barefoot running, which I still use to correct form issues as injuries crop up (though I limit barefoot runs to under 10 miles). This keeps you honest because if you run with bad mechanics while barefoot you feel pain almost instantly, and naturally correct, then just try to maintain this form when you put shoes back on. I have a pair of vibram ffs which I enjoy, but they do not give you the feel you need to correct overstriding or other foot fall issues. However without the support they do an excellent job of strengthening your feet and lower legs, which can work wonders in supporting the knees when you run. Just work slowly into training habits as the muscles weakened by overly supportive shoes will need time to adjust.
I wish you all luck, and hope we all enjoy many years of happy running.

Comment by Ted Carr AKA Ted Carb on November 24, 2010 at 3:55am

hey, yep it was the fall classic, now named, winter classic.

you should do a 25km run race with me on dec 12th! check it out here: http://www.clubfatass.com/events/puresatisfaction

Comment by Ted Carr AKA Ted Carb on November 22, 2010 at 6:25am

Just finished my first half marathon in 1:34:30!
Drank OJ and coconut water before, during, and after :)
No morning poop but three morning wizzes! Felt awesome, coulda gone even faster! Next half I'll get 1:30:00 or faster I promise!

Comment by Stuart Porter on November 22, 2010 at 5:51am

Thanks Justin,
Good tip, I'll probably join a running club. There are two near where I live plus a triathlon club. They do coaching there. I'm concentrating on the gym at the moment as I'm working on my overall fitness, running being a part of that. Any other commitments will have to wait until may/june next year when my gym membership runs out.

Comment by Justin on November 22, 2010 at 4:42am

Stuart- the number one way to improve is to get a coach. There are many different systems of training that will yield results, but having someone to work with you and hold you accountable is worth far more than any specific training. Even though I coach many people myself I still need a coach to keep me on the right track. Without that I often do too much or too little training even though I know better!

Comment by Justin on November 22, 2010 at 4:39am

Celery is great, but not a very good recovery food. CARBS CARBS CARBS! Get as much water and fruit in you ASAP and you'll recover faster. If you feel you can only eat so much right after a hard workout or race then so be it. As good as celery is for you, it's not going to replenish your glycogen stores. Even the top African runners go for the fruit first, then any supplements or shakes they may take- though they aren't nessecary.

Comment by Stuart Porter on November 21, 2010 at 8:03pm

Thanks very much Byron, great tips!

Hi Oriana, it sounds like you run at a similar pace to me. After I did my first really long run of 20 miles (slowly!), I ate 20 small to medium bananas, plus some other fruit and a big salad. The next morning for breakfast I devoured 34 bananas! Fruit never tasted so good.

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