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Comment by VeggiMike on March 9, 2011 at 1:33pm
Hellen, have you tried blending greens in a smoothie? I've found that I don't eat that many greens unless I am really deliberate about it, but adding lettuce/spinach to a banana smoothie actually tastes great and is an easy way to add them in w/o much hassle.
Comment by hellen72 on March 9, 2011 at 7:21am
on the greens Q, does cucumber count? I could happily eat a whole cucumber in a day if I had to but struggle with other greens
Comment by Alex Wall-Clarke on March 9, 2011 at 3:59am

Greetings Tomas! Welcome to the group and the forum. Yep 80/10/10 will do that to you, it's one life altering book for sure. What distance do you usually run? I'm middle distance too but more towards the distance side, 1500m and 5000m mainly.


The simple answer to your vegetable question is LOTS! Lots and lots of greens are reccommended on this diet (roughly 1 pound per day). It depends on your current state of health and ability to absorb nutrients but you can't really get too many. Try and find greens you enjoy eating or failing that grab a blender and mix with fruit. From my experience, runners on a standard diet have far more problems with deficiencies. Done properly with enough calories from fruit and greens, you should be fine.  

Comment by oriana on March 6, 2011 at 4:47am
NOthing like an orange or two after a marathon!!!!!!  How can anyone want to at fast food after running I will never know.  If they listened to there body they would CRAVE juicy fruit.
Comment by oriana on March 6, 2011 at 4:44am
Ewwww Chris that is a bad one.  I would stay off.  Easier said than done.  I just finished my 1/2 marathon and no bathroom problems!!!!!!  Amen!  Until after anyway.  I ran it with my 18 year old son.  It was his first and he can run a 5 minute mile.  I warned him about darting out and I caught up with him at mile 8.  Poor fella........my mommy heart just wanted to wrap my arms around him.  He was so discouraged but he didn't stop.  I slowed way down to his pace and we finished together.  I didn't care about my time.  It was a thrill to cross with my son at 2:00:56.  Not bad for his first.  This was a beast of a HM.  It was 6.5 uphill and the rest down.  You know there is a definite difference in eating fruit the day before a marathon and eating fruit/salad.  I felt really bogged down with  anything other than just fruit.  Now tonight I will have my humungo salad after my 6 oranges!  I used to eat a steak dinner the night before a race and would be burping steak during the run, my legs felt like lead, etc.  Now I run like a feather!!!  l LOVE RUNNING>  I can see myself doing thi in my 80's!
Comment by Chris on March 5, 2011 at 11:47pm

Love the idea, Victor. I've just been lazily soaking it in ice baths, not alternating and probably letting it sit too long. The color is getting worse, and the swelling isn't going down very fast, but it is feeling much better. I will be testing it a bit on my bike today.

WARNING: You may want to cover your eyes.

As an alternative to the ibuprofen dependecy, my aunt just introduced me to something called Emotional Freedom Technique (EFT) as a means to confront physical or emotional traumas to the body. Seems simple enough and like it could be quite effective.


Comment by VeggiMike on March 5, 2011 at 10:55am
For what it's worth, water transfers heat 25x faster than air, so I think that soaking your limbs in water will be much more effective than an ice pack or heating pad.
Comment by Joy on March 5, 2011 at 10:48am
makes sense, thanks!
Comment by Joy on March 5, 2011 at 7:55am
would alternating between ice packs and a heating pad work the same?
Comment by Chris on March 5, 2011 at 4:28am

That's great Helen. I can't say enough about the wonders Pilates has done for me and seems to do for most runners. 30 seconds is very good.  I have been attending an hour long class 2-3 times per week since last May. The longest we've ever held it in class is 2 minutes. I consider it necessary maintenance and preemptive strategy for reducing me knee issues which are caused by an over-striding left leg. I usually finish all my runs off with some kind of core work, foam rolling, side-line work now. The side line work has been the best medicine of all (hip stability). The whole plank-hold pursuit was born out of friendly competition I was having with a friend who is 62 yrs old and has a party trick where he holds a 6 minute plank on his elbows. He is always trying to get me to "eat like Jesus" whatever that means. He started planking as therapy for his shoulders. I decided it would be fun to practice long plank holds after all my runs. I had to alternate between high plank on my hands and low plank on my elbows, but that's 13 minutes straight-- no rests, no butts up in the air, just the longest/loudest song in my music collection.


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