Ok I have been Raw Vegan for 5 years now and REALLY have a MUCH HIGHER SEX DRIVE than when I was on SAD... I have found that my desire for BDSM Sex is over the top... I have noticed that when I play mu skin seems thinner than before.. and it can break and bleed from the "play"... anyone else notice this on Raw Vegan.. Or am I the only BDSM Raw Vegan on the planet?? LOL!!
Permalink Reply by melissa jackson on I would think it would the opposite. You'd be less drawn to a BDSM lifestyle on this diet.
but yes, I bleed easier too.
Permalink Reply by Adam on Hey Chilli Scott
I assume she means because BDSM is an example of socially conditioned sexual violence. If you look at natural communities, the only place sexual violence in the form of BDSM and festishism occurs is in those communities where there is a tradition of community leaders creating a social caste based on betrothals (ie. arranged marriages), which prevents free sexual expression and experimentation during adolescence. Normally, the happier, more peaceful and free to make choices about life, especially romantic partners and express/explore sexuality naturally during adolescence, the more people tend to be drawn towards affectionate and nurturing forms of sexuality.
Sexual violence tends to occur when people have consistently elevated levels of stress hormones and/or dopamine, particularly when there is restricted freedoms particuarly around sex (eg. repression, guilt etc), or when emotional, physical or sexual abuse, or gender/age/social class inequalities within the general social structure.
Since many people who are attracted to a lfrv diet either are already interested in, or become more interested in the ethical aspects of the vegan label, which means to minimise unnecessary acts of cruelty, inequality or violence towards other living organisms, most people would assume that this includes other humans and ourselves.
It is interesting that you see yourself as sexy now that you are thin, and that you equate this feeling of being sexy, with the act of sex, with play and with social violence in the form of BDSM. The way we relate to others sexually is usually a mirror of the way we relate to ourselves....
It is common for people to associate sex and play with violence and power struggles. BDSM is one example of a logical extreme of the view of sex and sexuality in modern western culture. We have moved away from an expression of love, affection, nurturing, and intimate connection, towards one of lust, power and sexual aggression. This is largely due to the influence of the porn industry on hollywood and the advertising industry, as well as the reminents of rebellion against millenia of religion based sexual repression, guilt and shame that is deeply imbedded within the cultural psyche. This has encouraged us to make sex a visual act (ie. we connect it with pictures we make in our mind, that guide us about how we should be doing things and what should stimulate us) rather than a kinaesthetic act (ie. feeling for sensations within our body, and for those in others), which makes people role-play what they think a healthy sex life should look like and include, rather than what we really want at a deeper level.
Generally, the less satisfying sex is at a deeper level, the more we want it.
The sexual impulse comes from the evolutionary need for two things: Firstly to procreate, which involves looking for the most suitable mate to provide genetic complements to our own, and who will be a suitable parental figure for the offspring. And secondly, to experience intimate connection; That sense of unconditional love, nurturing, calming and bonding that keeps us relaxed and emotionally secure.
The brain evolved to make all decisions about how best to meet our physical and emotional needs through pattern-matching (ie. linking up all the associations we have ever observed, experienced or heard about at a conscious or unconscious level throughout the entirety of our life, to try and make sense of what these needs mean and what solutions to these unmet needs we can use). We then get an emotional response to let us know whether or not to pursue an activity. The advantage of pattern-matching is that it offers us a lot of flexibility in terms of the content we can use to meet our needs. The disadvantage is that in being flexible, we can acquire a range of strategies to meet our needs that vary in the degree to which they actually satisfy us.
If we find a solution that is genuinely satisfying, we will usually relax, feel relieved and not think about that need again until it is unmet. When it is unmet again, we will likely use strategies that we have employed successfully in the past. However if we find something that is satisfying in some ways, but in other ways is not satisfying, we will keep that feeling that something is missing, to keep triggering the brain to pattern-match. However if new solutions are not being explored and exprienced, the brain is likely to keep trying the same things over and over.
This is especially true when we experience pattern matches associated with high levels of pleasure and also high levels of stress hormone production. When the sexual impulse and pleasure chemisty (dopamine) are elevated and become associated with stress hormones, the pattern-match becomes more significant, since in an evolutionary setting, this would have meant the pleasurable outcome was a response to something highly stressful associated with a life or death situation. Violence of any description is always stressful at a physiological level (ie. it increases stress hormone levels in the blood). BDSM provides a trick for the brains evolutionary chemistry to get it to associate unnaturally high levels of pleasure with pain. This is increased further still, because when we trigger the pain circuitry through the nervous system, we will produce opiates like endorphins and enkephalins that provide a mild euphoria, along with physical and emotional pain relief. This amplifies the associations in the brain, quickly making it something that the brain perceives to be a good strategy to use.
I think that since you are saying that you bleed easier, it is possible you are undereating, or eating a nutrient insufficient diet. You really shouldn't be bleeding easier than you used to. I think that if you are undereating or eating a nutrient insufficient diet, this could also relate to your increased desire for sex/BDSM, since your stress hormones will be higher since this is necessary to trigger the pattern-matching process. However if you have strong associations with certain levels of stress hormones in the bloodstream, and maintaining a thin body and with sexual pleasure, then this could be triggering your sex desire as a response, due to the pattern-matching process.
Just my two cents anyway
Take care
Adam x
Permalink Reply by melissa jackson on I love you. Honestly, I'm not just joking.
That's exactly what I meant to say, you just made it sound so much better!
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Permalink Reply by Janne Schaffer on wow Adam you seem to know alot about BDSM :)
no but honestly that was very interesting.
Permalink Reply by Tantraman on My sex drive is high right now, but there is also a positive feedback whereby the more regular sex activity is the more I want it, and the less the less so. My skin is soft and delicate on raw too.
The raw diet brings clarity and energy, which can make our experience of our self deeper.
I don't know of any other raw BDSM people though. Are you dom or sub - has that shifted since raw?
I am a Switch... always have been... but I tend to lean more toward sub at this point in my life, not because of Raw but I think it is more me in the bed room.
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