Self Sufficiency using Permaculture

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Comment by Michel on September 12, 2011 at 2:29pm

This is AWESOME, AWESOME, AWESOME Nilson!!! Being self-sufficient in 3 years... do you mean as a 811 follower, so you'll basically be able to eat only from your garden/orchards? And all these fruits grow without any problem in your climate? WELL, as I am moving to Brazil at the end of the year to try giving birth to http://bit.ly/terradosol, I can tell you I know where I could go if I do not find any welcoming place anywhere ;)

Comment by Nilson Dias on September 12, 2011 at 9:32am

We have a farm here and about 600 persimon trees, 300 blueberries, bananas, avocados, pears, jaboticaba, guava, etc and we are planting about 1.000 fruit trees every rainny season... in about 3 years we will be sulf-suficienty... our website www.pindorama.org.br

Comment by Jay Don't Cook on July 14, 2011 at 6:02am

Thanks for the offer Rus, i am sticking to Europe for now. But good luck

Comment by Rus Talis on July 13, 2011 at 3:57pm

Jay  or Dan : If you feel like owning a bit of Byron Bay , we have 2 sites (one 20acre beachfront,  9 acres avail)  Who needs to stay poor, when we provide tourist accom, for 1/2 price ?

 But I hear youre going to portugal .. ?  Thing about Byron , is the New Energy - we have so many products coming up, (even portable insulated housing - put it on the roof rack) ) that I even forgot about Costa Rica ... much as I love it ... There's  just so many projects .. and not enuf folk to lay hands.

Dan seems to be cranking it ... how about a 2nd Dojo  in Byron,  9 acres for $1M , and its tourist zone

absolute beachfront ,  if you want a pic , let me know ...  If you want more land ... can provide a DA approved 12 title  120 acres (certified) minutes to Mullum ( near Byron )  -  with fab house.

 

Some folk seem a bit on the resource poor side ...  sad when there's so much s*** happening ...

What recession ?  It's the one the banks stasrted while U were sleeping  ... Heres my sentiment  :

note the Khazar Cartel, the purchase of Israel, et at.. but lets not forget their financial presence in every developed country, on the basis of the founders comment ( Rths ) " I care not who makes the laws, so long as I lend the money" Lender..of debt.

After all he invented foreign debt...   Look  I  start another topic on this :  BANKS

We were so blind to follow, in that 200 years, we have created the monster. Its not too late.

There is full documented evidence on how Standard Oil NY, yes SONY, funded the Russian Revolution, incl the deciphered telegrams to the Bank of Siberia , where J.P.M sent millions of private US dollars to continue funding the war (revolution) effort. There is full evidence of the shipload of gold ($20M) with 300 trained men, intercepted by Bitish intelligence on its way to Europe, from N.Y. where this band of hand picked thugs were trained (in the shipyards of S.O.N.Y.) for a privately funded planned takeover of European freedom and eventual Soviet Union. This was carried out under sanction of the U.S lobby

This Union was the plan of the illuminati to sieze control of Eastern Europe via elite political means installed as the Kremlin, in the time of planning (1905) as a disguised civil unrest. The rest is history. This is happening to the U.S. now, the civil unrest is being forced by the Global Finance Crisis - which is a synthetic lie.

There is no crisis except that which is created by the banks themselves, for this purpose.

There is a simple solution : Use the same machinery the illiminati did from the 2nd world war: political blame. How? easy to see they made 1st profit : they sold arms ... & 2nd profit, by accusation, which was later compensated financially.  People too busy drinking coffee, & shopping in malls.

The Germans were double crossed !

Hitler was not Arian, he hated Germans, and he displayed a hatred for Jews. that was a con as well. Check the history archives which bankers were involved in this pantomime where the only music was firepower. What a joke ...

 

I still  have more stuff over in the U.S  than here in Aus , and I love the states ,  like where else do you get a 100 acre  apple orchard  with  2 houses  for $26,000  ?    4 miles from the P.O  ???  Just no time to go there ... but  sooooon ....    Anyone in N.C.  ?

Comment by Jay Don't Cook on July 8, 2011 at 5:23pm

Lekoma, Do you live in a community in Florida? I noticed a few people from Mt Dora, It must be great to have so many trees. I will be starting next year in Portugal, i can't wait!

Comment by Jay Don't Cook on June 22, 2011 at 7:57am

Good luck Alzic!

Comment by Nikita Kyptova on March 30, 2011 at 4:44pm

I sooooooooo want to be 100% Self  Sufficient... !!!

Comment by Jay Don't Cook on March 26, 2011 at 7:46am

Neuron.. thats interesting about the oranges and growing bananas in the south. To be Raw vegan it looks like your part of Portugal would be the best option to buy land ( especially as they have the best oranges :).Do people grow dates as well?

 

I am planning a visit this winter for a couple of months so will take a look. Most property sales sites seem to be for central Portugal. Any ideas?

Comment by neuron on March 24, 2011 at 8:54pm

The variety it would also depend on the soil and climate. Probably in Brasil one can get more variety specially concerning tropical fruit. There is a big difference between the north and the south of Portugal. While in the north you will get snow and cold winters, in the south (Algarve) the winters are mild. For tropical plantations only the south is suitable.

Michel is right, an orange tree gives much more than 50 oranges per season. And probably even more than 100 oranges. And it is not possible they taste like sh... at least not in Portugal. My father and uncles all have orange trees in their backyards (and lemon trees) and they are all delicious. Plus, the "real" oranges last very long in the tree, starting in the winter season (October/November) and lasting till May/June. Unfortunately what they sell in the supermarkets in Europe are the worst oranges one can possibly produce from Spain (those taste like sh... ;)

Also there are other Winter fruits varieties that are wonderful, for example, the pomegranates, the persimmons (kaki), and of course one can have a storage of almonds (which last long) and dried figs.

Comment by Michel on March 24, 2011 at 8:31pm

Hi Jay, I suggest you either create a group here, or you join Frubundance.ning.com and post there!

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