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SHANG DI: ADONAI IN CHINA

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 I was shocked to discover that the Chinese worshiped the God of the Bible as far back as 2500 BC. They called him "SHANG DI" which means "The emperor above" or "The Most High God"   I have always…Continue

Unsupportive Family

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I am raised in a christian household and am 17 years old. I have been vegetarian for 6 months and vegan for a month. When i told my mom I was going vegetarian she got kind of upset and said that I…Continue

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Daniel 1:12: Standing Up to the King

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Great bible verse here guys for anyone who hasn't read about it, Daniel wouldn't have been able to do what he did, without making a stand to the king, that he and his men would not be eating the same…Continue

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Hey I am a saved newly vegan...I do not want to debate whether or not Christians should or should not eat meat...I just want some support from fellow believers about my new lifestyle change...I'm…Continue

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Comment by Sephtan on May 17, 2014 at 2:57am

@Lychee Lady

I found your prayer request to be sincere and hearty, so I wouldn't call what I have written a criticism, but rather an added perspective. As I explained, the amount of news coverage does matter, as it means a lot of people are very likely already praying for them, while there are a lot of people on this planet suffering as much without any news coverage and therefor very few if any people praying for them, which would need our prayers much more right now. Which is of course just philosophical theory, so from a more Christian level the question would be, did you let yourself lead purely by your heart and your feeling of compassion for those sisters with your wish and your request for prayer for them, or did you ask Jesus if this is what you should be praying and requesting from others right now?

"The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?"
(Jeremiah 17:9)

Just some food for thought, as I too prayed for them after I read about the whole thing and seen some pictures & videos :) .

Comment by Lychee Lady on May 17, 2014 at 2:38am

@ Sephtan Is this a criticism for a prayer request? That's how what you said came across to me. Does it matter how much news coverage there is, or does it matter more that we offer our service (in the form of prayer) to aid our sisters?

Comment by Sephtan on May 16, 2014 at 9:09pm

Something I forgot to add. In regards to "Love your enemy" and "Hurt people hurt people and healed people heal people", why only ask for prayer for the kidnapped girls and not for those who did the kidnapping? Specially citing the aspect that their lives are in danger, which from the Christian point of view is not that much of a problem, even the opposite, as being persecuted for being a Christian is, if not directly a blessing, then at least something to be expected and normal. Well, those who are still alive seem to have converted to Islam, which is were it gets really tricky and I don't even want to go into any deeper speculations about that aspect, like if they are still closer to salvation then their kidnappers, which could be suspected, but who knows (apart from God of course) and I would guess that praying for them to stay strong in Jesus might be more important then praying for them to stay alive. They also said that not all of those who been kidnapped have been accounted for, so there is a chance that they refused to convert and been killed for it and those girls have my greatest respect and admiration, as I have no idea if I would have been able to do that. But the point I am trying to make is, that the kidnappers are in need of our prayers as well, if not even more so, when thinking of the state of their spirit. Any person who feels the need for acts of such brutal violence is deeply hurt inside and in need for our love, not our ignorance, only because it is easier for us to see the pain in the victims.

Well, that's my theory about it at least, like with everything else, I might be wrong about that one too of course. But I want to end with this passage from Luke 23:

"Then said Jesus, Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do."

Comment by Sephtan on May 16, 2014 at 2:22pm

@Lychee Lady

After doing a quick search to find out what this is about, it seems a bit odd, with all the horrific stuff happening everywhere, why of all things this is getting this much media coverage. But that's just a side thought. The thing is, they ARE getting a huge amount of media coverage, so one can assume, a lot of people are praying for them already, while horrific things are happening on this planet all the time, some of which are much worse than what is happening to those girls, but without getting any (big) media attention at all, so right now, it would make much much more sense, to pray for any of those other cases rather then for those girls, who are quite probably already covered prayer wise, while for those other cases, probably only comparably very few if any people at all are praying for them - which also implies that any prayer request for those other cases would make more sense as well.

(It actually bothers me a bit, that because of my beforehand research, I did a bit of praying for those girls while writing all of this, so to be consequent in my statements, I best go down on my knees now and make a general prayer for those "any other" cases I mentioned ... )

Comment by Lychee Lady on May 16, 2014 at 12:30pm

Please pray for the girls in Nigeria who've been kidnapped and whose lives are in danger. 

Comment by Joseph Glover on May 13, 2014 at 3:36am

 Who is this man who rejects the word of Adonai?

 Did Yeshua not say 'do THIS in remembrance of me'? 

 Yet you go your own path, not the Lord's, & receive a curse unto yourself as if it were a blessing.

 The Lord also said "remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy" -Exodus 20:8

 The sabbath day is Saturday!

 If you choose Tuesday or Sunday  or any other day to honor the Lord will you receive a blessing or a curse?

 Honor on the days set aside to honor & honor in the way the Lord himself says that you should honor him; to do anything else is to dishonor his name!

Comment by haribon on May 12, 2014 at 4:20pm

There was a very shocking and horrific event that took place in our church today.  Our priest was sick and coughing all over the bread and wine and wiping his face and mucus all over his sleeve during his supposed "blessing."  This is not an exaggeration.  Several minutes passed during a very awkward silence aside from his coughing and shouts from the congregation that "he needs water!"  After the service was a potluck the priest attended.  I watched him go straight to the front and serve himself before anyone else with a plate full of fried chicken wings.  I watched to see if anyone else would cross their arms as they approached for communion like me, but one after another, they each placed one of these cooked gluten disks in their mouth and washed it down with alcohol.  I am very happy to have discovered this "crossing of the arms" demonstration and would like to know if anyone else has found this useful or has found any other techniques that make 80-10-10RV and the Catholic church more compatible.

Comment by Annelife on May 12, 2014 at 3:08pm
I am the same way as Crystal. I am a vegan but before all else I am a follower of Christ. I can only do so much for my health but the plans God has for me and His saving grace and healing go far beyond what I can do!
Comment by Crystal on May 12, 2014 at 3:03pm
@Haribon although I follow and 80/10/10 lifestyle I still do communion. It's in the Bible and so I will follow what God says. I don't mind breaking the "rules" of the 80/10/10 lifestyle for God. He's done so much for me and taking communion while on this lifestyle won't hurt. Gods way is way more important that my way
Comment by haribon on May 12, 2014 at 2:42pm

I grew up taking communion in the Catholic church.  When I discovered that the bread and wine are not compatible in the 80-10-10RV lifestyle, I changed the way I receive communion.  With my arms crossed over my chest, the person giving communion gives me a blessing instead of feeding me bread and wine.  Has anyone else had this experience?

 

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