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Why AREN'T all Christians vegan?

Started by Robyn E. Last reply by Gordon Johnson Jul 24. 30 Replies

I was discussing with my mum today why Christians have all the love and kindness morals yet they casually go to the supermarket and buy their daily doses of meat? I find this very mind boggling, as…Continue

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Did God Tell Us to Eat Meat?

Started by Merissa Anderson. Last reply by Pri Di Jul 21. 31 Replies

Hi! I am a born again, saved by the blood of Jesus, bible believing Christian in search of some scripture answers. My dad argues with me repeatedly about eating meat. He argues that it is fine. God…Continue

Dead Sea Scrolls confirm Jesus was raised and lived as an Essene - The Essenes were vegetarians

Started by Haven Raye Jul 16. 0 Replies

After many years of researching translated material from the dead sea scrolls I find it hard to fathom how the old and the new testament can sit together and doubt very much that the books that made…Continue

The argument that "God commanded them to eat meat"

Started by It's a FRUITful life!. Last reply by Stefan Nieuwoudt Jul 16. 25 Replies

I was talking with my priest about my diet, and when I said that we humans are not in any way carnivorous, he disagreed. He asked me why God would have commanded people to eat meat, in various…Continue

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Comment by Lychee Lady on May 16, 2014 at 12:30pm

Please pray for the girls in Nigeria who've been kidnapped and whose lives are in danger. 

Comment by Joseph Glover on May 13, 2014 at 3:36am

 Who is this man who rejects the word of Adonai?

 Did Yeshua not say 'do THIS in remembrance of me'? 

 Yet you go your own path, not the Lord's, & receive a curse unto yourself as if it were a blessing.

 The Lord also said "remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy" -Exodus 20:8

 The sabbath day is Saturday!

 If you choose Tuesday or Sunday  or any other day to honor the Lord will you receive a blessing or a curse?

 Honor on the days set aside to honor & honor in the way the Lord himself says that you should honor him; to do anything else is to dishonor his name!

Comment by haribon on May 12, 2014 at 4:20pm

There was a very shocking and horrific event that took place in our church today.  Our priest was sick and coughing all over the bread and wine and wiping his face and mucus all over his sleeve during his supposed "blessing."  This is not an exaggeration.  Several minutes passed during a very awkward silence aside from his coughing and shouts from the congregation that "he needs water!"  After the service was a potluck the priest attended.  I watched him go straight to the front and serve himself before anyone else with a plate full of fried chicken wings.  I watched to see if anyone else would cross their arms as they approached for communion like me, but one after another, they each placed one of these cooked gluten disks in their mouth and washed it down with alcohol.  I am very happy to have discovered this "crossing of the arms" demonstration and would like to know if anyone else has found this useful or has found any other techniques that make 80-10-10RV and the Catholic church more compatible.

Comment by Annelife on May 12, 2014 at 3:08pm
I am the same way as Crystal. I am a vegan but before all else I am a follower of Christ. I can only do so much for my health but the plans God has for me and His saving grace and healing go far beyond what I can do!
Comment by Crystal on May 12, 2014 at 3:03pm
@Haribon although I follow and 80/10/10 lifestyle I still do communion. It's in the Bible and so I will follow what God says. I don't mind breaking the "rules" of the 80/10/10 lifestyle for God. He's done so much for me and taking communion while on this lifestyle won't hurt. Gods way is way more important that my way
Comment by haribon on May 12, 2014 at 2:42pm

I grew up taking communion in the Catholic church.  When I discovered that the bread and wine are not compatible in the 80-10-10RV lifestyle, I changed the way I receive communion.  With my arms crossed over my chest, the person giving communion gives me a blessing instead of feeding me bread and wine.  Has anyone else had this experience?

Comment by Joseph Glover on April 24, 2014 at 4:21am

 Saying that we are not to judge is an inaccurate reading of scripture.

 READ THE LAST LINE!:

“Don’t judge, so that you won’t be judged. For the way you judge others is how you will be judged — the measure with which you measure out will be used to measure to you. Why do you see the splinter in your brother’s eye but not notice the log in your own eye? How can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the splinter out of your eye,’ when you have the log in your own eye? You hypocrite! First, take the log out of your own eye; then you will see clearly, so that you can remove the splinter from your brother’s eye! 

  This is what this section of scripture means:

 When you judge, see yourself in them and speak with the purpose of reformation not condemnation.

 Next verse:

“Don’t give to dogs what is holy, and don’t throw your pearls to the pigs. If you do, they may trample them under their feet, then turn and attack you.

 The verse is saying that we should direct our efforts to those who are seeking; it is not saying that we should remain silent when evil is called good or when righteousness is mocked.

 In us is life, and our life is the light of mankind.

 The light shines in the darkness and the darkness cannot suppress it.

 

Comment by Sephtan on April 24, 2014 at 1:05am

@flower-candy

"It almost feels like we're heading for a Sodom and Gomorrah time in society."

I would say we are already right in the middle of it. The problem is the same as with the frog in cold water - when you heat up that water fast, the frog will jump out, but if you heat it up slowly the frog will just sit in it to get boiled and die. The same goes for our perception of what is considered "normal" and it was happening on all different kinds of levels. There been some outcries even with the small changes, but they were either mostly by fanatics or were made to look like fanatics (or the just plainly picked the fanatics for the media coverage). The general medium film, including tv shows, music videos and so forth, can give an interesting development over time. At the beginning it was just small occult influences, sex & violence, but nowadays they do it completely open - and people just don't notice, because it's just "normal". They might as well post the statement "... and another satanic ritual, performed by artist XY" before some of the music videos - like Katy Perry - Dark Horse (symbolism AND lyrics) - and for sexuality see Miley Cyrus - Wrecking Ball. Or one of the last Disney hit films Frozen, which basically declares that sorcery is just a normal and good thing and one of the songs from the film, which has nearly 198 million views already just on youtube, even has a text passage that openly states the satanistic law of thelema "Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law." - in the song - "No right, no wrong, no rules for me. I'm free!".

You could fill a whole library with examples of how deep we are already in "Sodom and Gomorrah" - it'd be interesting to know if we even already managed to top it actually. 

Comment by flower-candy on April 24, 2014 at 12:27am

I want to address, Sue's comments on gays. I was shocked just a few weeks ago when I had created a Youtube playlist for my son and they played a commercial talking about, "what is wholesome" and in the commercial, they portrayed a gay couple with a child. Though homosexuality is no greater sin than any other, including gossip, lying and other things, it is still a sin according to the Word of Our Lord. Though we have no right to judge others because of their sin, since all of us were often careless sinners before we were saved and some of us still make mistakes, the Bible gives us clear instructions on how to deal with these rapidly changing times. 

It's easy for Christians to be accepting of gays. The world is embracing the lifestyle as wholesome and healthy, however, what is easy to do is not always best for us to do. And the Word tells us in Luke 43 - 48 that:

43 Blessed is that servant, whom his lord when he cometh shall find so doing.

44 Of a truth I say unto you, that he will make him ruler over all that he hath.

45 But and if that servant say in his heart, My lord delayeth his coming; and shall begin to beat the menservants and maidens, and to eat and drink, and to be drunken;

46 The lord of that servant will come in a day when he looketh not for him, and at an hour when he is not aware, and will cut him in sunder, and will appoint him his portion with the unbelievers.

47 And that servant, which knew his lord's will, and prepared not himself, neither did according to his will, shall be beaten with many stripes.

48 But he that knew not, and did commit things worthy of stripes, shall be beaten with few stripes. For unto whomsoever much is given, of him shall be much required: and to whom men have committed much, of him they will ask the more.

So the Christians that are doing what is easy right now will receive their portion with the unbelievers. So Sue, I hope this encourages you. It's easy to feel discouraged b/c the world is changing fast and it's scary. It almost feels like we're heading for a Sodom and Gomorrah time in society. It's not just like gay people are coming out of the closet, it's like many more people are choosing to lead a gay lifestyle. I see it too. However, our job is to follow the Word of the Lord and not the world. So what you're doing is right, Sue, no matter what other Christians around you are doing or saying.

Comment by Joseph Glover on April 22, 2014 at 2:35pm

 "...What should I do when people around me (not from church) ask me what my opinion is? I know I shouldn't be afraid of telling my own thoughts or showing my faith..." -Sue

 The word of Adonai is not an opinion, the imaginings of man are opinions, speak the word boldly and do not be ashamed lest your father in heaven be ashamed likewise of you.

 "... My church is against them. The Bible is against them. Yet, many people that say they are Christians are all for them..." -Sue

 The Bible is not against gays, if by "gays" we are talking about human beings.

 What the Word is against is the spirit of error which dwells in every man.

 

Matthew 9:11-13

Complete Jewish Bible (CJB)

11 When the P’rushim saw this, they said to his talmidim, “Why does your rabbi eat with tax-collectors and sinners?” 12 But Yeshua heard the question and answered, “The ones who need a doctor aren’t the healthy but the sick. 13 As for you, go and learn what this means: ‘I want compassion rather than animal-sacrifices.’[a] For I didn’t come to call the ‘righteous,’ but sinners!”

   

 

 

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