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Why AREN'T all Christians vegan?

Started by Robyn E. Last reply by Gordon Johnson Jul 24. 30 Replies

I was discussing with my mum today why Christians have all the love and kindness morals yet they casually go to the supermarket and buy their daily doses of meat? I find this very mind boggling, as…Continue

Tags: love, why, kindness, morals, vegan

Did God Tell Us to Eat Meat?

Started by Merissa Anderson. Last reply by Pri Di Jul 21. 31 Replies

Hi! I am a born again, saved by the blood of Jesus, bible believing Christian in search of some scripture answers. My dad argues with me repeatedly about eating meat. He argues that it is fine. God…Continue

Dead Sea Scrolls confirm Jesus was raised and lived as an Essene - The Essenes were vegetarians

Started by Haven Raye Jul 16. 0 Replies

After many years of researching translated material from the dead sea scrolls I find it hard to fathom how the old and the new testament can sit together and doubt very much that the books that made…Continue

The argument that "God commanded them to eat meat"

Started by It's a FRUITful life!. Last reply by Stefan Nieuwoudt Jul 16. 25 Replies

I was talking with my priest about my diet, and when I said that we humans are not in any way carnivorous, he disagreed. He asked me why God would have commanded people to eat meat, in various…Continue

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Comment by Zach "Vegan Minimalist" on July 1, 2014 at 2:32pm

Wow. I am so grateful there is an even tighter community of Jesus-lovers within our already tiny community of high carb vegans. Just inspired and happy for the growth that comes in the next years.

Comment by Annelife on June 28, 2014 at 9:32am
That's pretty cool! Next time someone posts a discussion asking how to defend veganism to their Christian family members, you should post that!!

I also came across a really interesting site promoting the "Hallelujah Diet." It's basically a nearly vegan lifestyle centered around Gods original design, check it out!

http://www.hacres.com/
Comment by Hummingbird on June 28, 2014 at 7:12am

I thought this was interesting and wanted to share. Even though this doesn't necessarily promote a vegan diet, it does show that humans and animals were all originally created to eat a plant based diet and that it's the best diet for us. It's just a short video, so it doesn't go into all the scientific data and stuff.

What do you all think?

http://vimeo.com/45670670

Comment by Karen Kellock on June 7, 2014 at 11:22pm

So glad to find this group!  I know Jesus is leading me to this diet but it's not easy at first with the initial weight gain.  I will depend on the Lord to lead me to "The Body" I want.  This is not vanity it's about health and longevity.  I want to feel good and strong [fit, slender and useful] not bloated and fat [of no use to the Kingdom whatsoever].

Comment by Vincent McGovern on May 24, 2014 at 10:39am

Gospel-reading for Sunday, 25/05/2014 John 14:15-21

15 'If you love me you will keep my commandments.

16 I shall ask the Father, and he will give you another Paraclete to be with you for ever,

17 the Spirit of truth whom the world can never accept since it neither sees nor knows him; but you know him, because he is with you, he is in you.

18 I shall not leave you orphans; I shall come to you.

19 In a short time the world will no longer see me; but you will see that I live and you also will live.

20 On that day you will know that I am in my Father and you in me and I in you.

21 Whoever holds to my commandments and keeps them is the one who loves me; and whoever loves me willbe loved by my Father, and I shall love him and reveal myself to him.'

Shalom x

Comment by Sephtan on May 20, 2014 at 5:59am

@Lychee Lady & @generally

I wanted to write this sooner but well. Writing for me is a way to grow and learn. From the base concept, this is something that had been bothering me, but I tried to phrase it at least neutral. That you perceived it as criticism shows that I probably failed at it, but if I hadn't written anything, I wouldn't have learned that. Still, my apologies. 

I am still interested in the things I wrote about though. Those were the theories that came to my mind and I am interested if there is something to it or if I am completely off the path on that one. So if anyone has any insights, inspirations, ideas, intuitions or bible passages that come to mind on this specific case or on the general subject (see my previous two comments here at the whole captured Nigerian girls situation), I would be very interested to learn more. 

Comment by Sephtan on May 17, 2014 at 2:57am

@Lychee Lady

I found your prayer request to be sincere and hearty, so I wouldn't call what I have written a criticism, but rather an added perspective. As I explained, the amount of news coverage does matter, as it means a lot of people are very likely already praying for them, while there are a lot of people on this planet suffering as much without any news coverage and therefor very few if any people praying for them, which would need our prayers much more right now. Which is of course just philosophical theory, so from a more Christian level the question would be, did you let yourself lead purely by your heart and your feeling of compassion for those sisters with your wish and your request for prayer for them, or did you ask Jesus if this is what you should be praying and requesting from others right now?

"The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?"
(Jeremiah 17:9)

Just some food for thought, as I too prayed for them after I read about the whole thing and seen some pictures & videos :) .

Comment by Lychee Lady on May 17, 2014 at 2:38am

@ Sephtan Is this a criticism for a prayer request? That's how what you said came across to me. Does it matter how much news coverage there is, or does it matter more that we offer our service (in the form of prayer) to aid our sisters?

Comment by Sephtan on May 16, 2014 at 9:09pm

Something I forgot to add. In regards to "Love your enemy" and "Hurt people hurt people and healed people heal people", why only ask for prayer for the kidnapped girls and not for those who did the kidnapping? Specially citing the aspect that their lives are in danger, which from the Christian point of view is not that much of a problem, even the opposite, as being persecuted for being a Christian is, if not directly a blessing, then at least something to be expected and normal. Well, those who are still alive seem to have converted to Islam, which is were it gets really tricky and I don't even want to go into any deeper speculations about that aspect, like if they are still closer to salvation then their kidnappers, which could be suspected, but who knows (apart from God of course) and I would guess that praying for them to stay strong in Jesus might be more important then praying for them to stay alive. They also said that not all of those who been kidnapped have been accounted for, so there is a chance that they refused to convert and been killed for it and those girls have my greatest respect and admiration, as I have no idea if I would have been able to do that. But the point I am trying to make is, that the kidnappers are in need of our prayers as well, if not even more so, when thinking of the state of their spirit. Any person who feels the need for acts of such brutal violence is deeply hurt inside and in need for our love, not our ignorance, only because it is easier for us to see the pain in the victims.

Well, that's my theory about it at least, like with everything else, I might be wrong about that one too of course. But I want to end with this passage from Luke 23:

"Then said Jesus, Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do."

Comment by Sephtan on May 16, 2014 at 2:22pm

@Lychee Lady

After doing a quick search to find out what this is about, it seems a bit odd, with all the horrific stuff happening everywhere, why of all things this is getting this much media coverage. But that's just a side thought. The thing is, they ARE getting a huge amount of media coverage, so one can assume, a lot of people are praying for them already, while horrific things are happening on this planet all the time, some of which are much worse than what is happening to those girls, but without getting any (big) media attention at all, so right now, it would make much much more sense, to pray for any of those other cases rather then for those girls, who are quite probably already covered prayer wise, while for those other cases, probably only comparably very few if any people at all are praying for them - which also implies that any prayer request for those other cases would make more sense as well.

(It actually bothers me a bit, that because of my beforehand research, I did a bit of praying for those girls while writing all of this, so to be consequent in my statements, I best go down on my knees now and make a general prayer for those "any other" cases I mentioned ... )

 

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