High Carb Cooked Vegan Discussions

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This is a group for those wanting to eliminate cooked foods from their diet OR for those follow a high carb cooked vegan lifestyle. Please keep all cooked food discussions to this group. Thank you!

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Welcome! Feel free to talk about cooked VEGAN food here. We suggest you stick to discussing high carb cooked vegan foods like potatoes, root vegetables, rice with minimal dressing if any as they are the most healthful cooked food choices. Below is a transition diet I 'created' for those of you coming from a SAD lifestyle and wanting to make the switch to a high carb RAW vegan lifestyle.

Here are some guidelines that we support, put together by the super helpful PK

Cooking is for emergencies only such as financial reasons and or there is no ripe fruit available, then low fat cooked starches may be an acceptable back up plan.
It's always healthier to steam than any other cooked method.
Corn and Root vegetables digest better than grains like rice.
Always choose foods that are vegan and promote compassion towards our fellow earthlings. We do not support the discussion of non-vegan cooked foods in this group or on the 30BaD forum.
Avoid dairy products for compassionate and health reasons: http://www.notmilk.com/
Cooking denatures food. Try to plan for at least 75% of the diet to be raw fruits and leafy greens.
Cooked foods should still be low fat for weight control and cardiovascular health and optimum energy.
Continue to focus on high carb high calorie sources and the more nutrient dense, the better.
Fruits do not mix well with cooked foods and or grains. An idea is to eat fruit meals during the day, and perhaps end the day with a big salad and bowl of steamed rice.
Cooking should be simple, with as little processing and as few ingredients as possible, and foods should resemble their original states such as steamed broccoli verses cookies.
This is not a license to kill foods with salt and spices or to eat McDeaths french fries. A bowl of steamed rice is fine, hold the oil, salt, and spices.
Continue to follow other guidelines such as avoiding booze, tea, coffee, soda, drugs, etc. Read more here: http://www.rawfoodexplained.com/science.html
Cooking is for emergencies only, and not for a transition tool. We still recommend going 100% low fat raw fruit and leafy green for optimum digestion and health results. As we have said before, one cannot ride two horses (or bikes;D) with the same bum. For best results and to get over addictions, just do it 100% if and when possible.
While high carb cooked vegan fare makes for the best backup plan when we're not able to find delicious raw fruits and vegetables, the use of toxic ingredients defeats the benefits of this fallback position. Therefor, in all cooked-food discussions, we expect members to abide by our list of unsupported ingredients. If you're going to eat cooked vegan food, keep it simple: bare cooked potatoes or rice, steamed veggies and such.
Whenever possible, choose ripe fruits and leafy greens. Primates and humans cannot manufacture vitamin C, and must consume it in fruit and greens, or they may develop sub-clinical symptoms of scurvy which could include things like skin ulcerations and mouth infections. Grains and some beans do not have vitamin C, and some beans and potatoes that do have minimal amounts, may have the vitamin C rendered useless via cooking.
Continue to consider that some of the cheaper so called starch foods have little or no vitamin C, and are usually high in protein. These foods may cause an acid condition in the body that can contribute long term to arthritis, osteoporosis, tooth decay, kidney problems and kidney stones and cancer. Grains can also cause indigestion, Crohn's disease, irritable bowel syndrome, celiac disease, colitis, constipation, diarrhea, bloating, gas, and indigestion.
Again, it is recommended that as soon as circumstances allow, that one should resume eating a low fat raw fruit and tender leafy green based diet. For some folks, that may be as easy as downgrading the house and car payment.
To save a little money now and go the starch route, only to get sick and have to pay for doctors and medications later on is a decision one will have to ask themselves if it is worth the risk involved.

BTW, I have known millionaires and people making over 100K a year who cannot afford fruit because they are maxed out financially on the McMansions they have bought and the beamers and benzes they drive.

Thanks folks!

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Comment by Tyster on June 15, 2012 at 10:46am: Oh, Wow Tom, didn't realize you Ukranians had it so tough. I guess you have no red tape bananas, eh?

Comment by Jon Fergus on June 15, 2012 at 8:37am: Hi Tom. I'd have to second Tyster. In dealing with many alcoholics (including myself at one point), I've come across this reasoning many times. In my experience, if someone says: "I'm quitting! But, only after one last go!", it's a sure sign they're not ready to quit. It's the same for cooked food as it is for anything else. When we're ready, truly ready, we're ready to start now.

Just something to consider. I say, if you're ready, embrace it and bring loads of fruit to the family party and to the festival.

Comment by Tom on June 15, 2012 at 8:33am: Tyster, thanks for the encouragement but consider the maths. Here in the UK there's a lead time of 5 to 8 days between buying bananas and them being ripe to eat. Supposing I'm going to be able to make regular staggered purchases to keep the ripe ones coming through, then I'm going to be carrying at a minimum 5 days worth of bananas. I need at least 4000kcals / day and probably more since I'm going to be walking with a rucksack several hours a day when camping (if the weather doesn't send me home). Say 5kg of bananas per day. So that means I'd be carrying 25kg of bananas. I'd need 2 rucksacks. As for oranges, apples, etc., these have the advantage of being ready to eat, but they're not very ripe and sweet here, and I'd have to eat a lot of them and it'd cost me an arm and a leg. Carrots? I'd have to eat around 10kg per day. No thanks.

The festival is the Sunrise Solstice Celebration in Somerset, England - there'll be plenty of vegan food there. I'll be looking for the low fat options ...

I will be taking maybe 2 or 3 kg of dried dates / figs / apricots and soaking them as I go, but I'll be taking rye bread, too, and maybe some oat groats to soak. I guess I'll be grabbing some rice & dall and baked potatoes along the way. Durianrider suggests drinking fruit juice when good fruit is hard to come by, but I don't like the pasteurized stuff much. I'll have to do with what I can get.

Pizza? Ice cream? Pop? I haven't had any of those things for a long time! As for burgers - I've not eaten meat for 23 years :)

Comment by Tyster on June 15, 2012 at 7:32am: Hey, Tom, I wanna add a comment. When I say to myself, "I will go raw after I eat a bunch of junk", it's like a bachelor party with the kind of mentality that fosters. "Why not have 2 burgers instead of one since I'm gonna be pounding salads for the next month after this? Oooh, ice cream; gimme an extra large!"

Maybe you would gain from considering this the leap into cold water -- if you can do it here, you can do it anytime, anywhere, with anyone. Perhaps you could just bring a lot of bananas, oranges, apples, carrots, etc with you to these events, and pass around some hummus or guacamole, etc for potlucks. I'm sure anyone who cares about you will respect your commitment to your health. Anyone who says you should eat the burgers/pizza/pop is just as much of a bible-thumper as a peta picketers.

Comment by Tom on June 15, 2012 at 6:53am: Thanks Anna!

I think I'm ready to go raw again, only I have a family party on Saturday / Sunday then next week I'm going to a festival for a few days then maybe camping for a week, so I guess now is not a good time. I was planning on taking a load of dried dates and soaking some each day, but today I discovered that they can quickly go fizzy (bad) in the heat - I had to throw 1/2 pint of date-o-rade away today.

Sorry for using 'bad' words in my last post - I had no idea! The asterixes were put in after :-O

Comment by Anna on June 13, 2012 at 7:02pm: Dinner is zuchini pasta again - cant get enough of it.... also strawberries and papaya. 801010 book hurry up already haha!
Great results Tom, I hope you can keep it up. I believe in you.
I've been told I have 'pockets' in my bowel by a iridologist a few times now over the last 10 years.... I think raw eating should have nothing but good affect on that.

Comment by Tom on June 13, 2012 at 6:49pm: For years my reflexologist has been picking up on problems with my colon, and my s***s have been like cow pats. Five weeks ago, after 2 and a half weeks raw and 2 days LFRV (just discovered LFRV), I had my first reflexology treatment where she said my colon was looking fine, and my s***s on LFRV became text book perfect :)

Yesterday, after 2 weeks of mixing in some high carb cooked food - and the odd egg - I had another reflexology treatment and my colon was troublesome once again. And my s***s had returned to slop when I started eating cooked again.

Needless to say, I'm keen to get back to 100% LFRV! Just hope I can keep mentally grounded and focussed this time...

Comment by Dovima on June 13, 2012 at 1:09pm: Hey friends- take great care with grains! Ideally, if you're gonna consume them, sprout them first! Then carefully be on the lookout for inflammatory responses to them. You'll truly never know for sure if they are conducive to your health unless you go for an extended period of time without any grains, then introduce one grain at a time to monitor for reactions.

Comment by Anna on June 13, 2012 at 1:05pm: Sorry i mine I was meant to say Freele not Frances! Sorry!!
I see second video is up! Will watch when not at work..
Hi Tom, yeah 6 kg is a lot..
I like quinoa a lot I will try that with brown rice maybe a bit of a mix.
Today was good so far...the regular wednsday markets are on in the city so I had a 500g tub of raspberries, a LARGE juicy tomato, a green juice (made at home) and a fresh cane juice from the markets. (that's been breakfast so far)

Comment by kindvibe on June 13, 2012 at 11:30am: Frances, raw does not equal fat just as carb does not equal fat....FAT equal fat. So long as your carbs are at least 80% of your caloric intake and your fat is UNDER 10% then you should be golden:)