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High Carb Cooked Vegan Discussions

This is a group for those wanting to eliminate cooked foods from their diet OR for those follow a high carb cooked vegan lifestyle. Please keep all cooked food discussions to this group. Thank you!

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Some guidelines

Welcome! Feel free to talk about cooked VEGAN food here.  We suggest you stick to discussing high carb cooked vegan foods like potatoes, root vegetables, rice with minimal dressing if any as they are the most healthful cooked food choices. Below is a transition diet I 'created' for those of you coming from a SAD lifestyle and wanting to make the switch to a high carb RAW vegan lifestyle.

Here are some guidelines that we support, put together by the super helpful PK

  • Cooking is for emergencies only such as financial reasons and or there is no ripe fruit available, then low fat cooked starches may be an acceptable back up plan.
  • It's always healthier to steam than any other cooked method.
  • Corn and Root vegetables digest better than grains like rice.
  • Always choose foods that are vegan and promote compassion towards our fellow earthlings. We do not support the discussion of non-vegan cooked foods in this group or on the 30BaD forum.
  • Avoid dairy products for compassionate and health reasons:  http://www.notmilk.com/
  • Cooking denatures food.  Try to plan for at least 75% of the diet to be raw fruits and leafy greens.
  • Cooked foods should still be low fat for weight control and cardiovascular health and optimum energy.
  • Continue to focus on high carb high calorie sources and the more nutrient dense, the better.
  • Fruits do not mix well with cooked foods and or grains.  An idea is to eat fruit meals during the day, and perhaps end the day with a big salad and bowl of steamed rice.
  • Cooking should be simple, with as little processing and as few ingredients as possible, and foods should resemble their original states such as steamed broccoli verses cookies.
  • This is not a license to kill foods with salt and spices or to eat McDeaths french fries.  A bowl of steamed rice is fine, hold the oil, salt, and spices.
  • Continue to follow other guidelines such as avoiding booze, tea, coffee, soda, drugs, etc.  Read more here: http://www.rawfoodexplained.com/science.html
  • Cooking is for emergencies only, and not for a transition tool.  We still recommend going 100% low fat raw fruit and leafy green for optimum digestion and health results.  As we have said before, one cannot ride two horses (or bikes;D) with the same bum.  For best results and to get over addictions, just do it 100% if and when possible.
  • While high carb cooked vegan fare makes for the best backup plan when we're not able to find delicious raw fruits and vegetables, the use of toxic ingredients defeats the benefits of this fallback position. Therefor, in all cooked-food discussions, we expect members to abide by our list of unsupported ingredients. If you're going to eat cooked vegan food, keep it simple: bare cooked potatoes or rice, steamed veggies and such.
  • Whenever possible, choose ripe fruits and leafy greens.  Primates and humans cannot manufacture vitamin C, and must consume it in fruit and greens, or they may develop sub-clinical symptoms of scurvy which could include things like skin ulcerations and mouth infections.  Grains and some beans do not have vitamin C, and some beans and potatoes that do have minimal amounts, may have the vitamin C rendered useless via cooking.
  • Continue to consider that some of the cheaper so called starch foods have little or no vitamin C, and are usually high in protein.  These foods may cause an acid condition in the body that can contribute long term to arthritis, osteoporosis, tooth decay, kidney problems and kidney stones and cancer.  Grains can also cause indigestion, Crohn's disease, irritable bowel syndrome, celiac disease, colitis, constipation, diarrhea, bloating, gas, and indigestion.
  • Again, it is recommended that as soon as circumstances allow, that one should resume eating a low fat raw fruit and tender leafy green based diet.  For some folks, that may be as easy as downgrading the house and car payment.
  • To save a little money now and go the starch route, only to get sick and have to pay for doctors and medications later on is a decision one will have to ask themselves if it is worth the risk involved.

BTW, I have known millionaires and people making over 100K a year who cannot afford fruit because they are maxed out financially on the McMansions they have bought and the beamers and benzes they drive.

 

Thanks folks!

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Comment by Kara Moon on July 18, 2014 at 2:23am
It's not cooked food that makes you fat. It's the fat that makes you fat. Keep the salt and fat low 80/10/10 style and you should be fine. Most importantly though -> Listen to your body!
Comment by monica st on July 18, 2014 at 1:10am

is cooked food makes u fat? I mean if u eat cooked HCLF vegan food lunch and dinner. Must I eat cooked food just for dinner (rawtill4) or even eliminate it if I want to lose weight? 

Comment by Joshua Wedel on July 15, 2014 at 1:16am

Junessa if eating bread keeps you on this lifestyle then do it. leave the oil out and watch the salt.

Comment by Junessa M. Rendon on July 15, 2014 at 12:19am

Can I still eat bread? It's been a huge part of my life before I went vegan, and right now, I really want to incorporate it in my list of "food I can eat". I've occasionally been having sourdough bread, and I even made my own pita bread (just from flour, water, salt, and olive oil).

Comment by Klairee Berry on July 8, 2014 at 3:58pm

I have lots  of discussion about this on my youtube channel and I post about how I'm dealing with it.  Down ten # so far! :)

Comment by Klairee Berry on July 8, 2014 at 3:57pm

Yes keep at it and check your measurements.  I notice when the scale doesn't move, the measuring tape does!

Comment by Scarlett Neary on June 15, 2014 at 7:20pm
Hi Sabine,
Nice to speak to you again, and thanks for the explanation. It is amazing, I feel so much better, I believe the weight gain is to do with my body's health and muscle gain. Now that I'm eating enough and eating right, I'm gaining a few pounds. I love this lifestyle and the energy it provides, it is great. :)
Comment by Scarlett Neary on June 14, 2014 at 5:21am
Hi, since starting this lifestyle 2 months ago I've gone from 9 stone 3lb to 9 stone 11lb but with no visible weight gain. I've been doing exercise most days, nothing too strenuous. I'm just curious as to why it is not visible, is it muscle mass from the exercise I started doing when I joined this lifestyle? Do any of you have any simular experiences? It is not putting me off at all, I feel amazing.
Thanks :)
Comment by Nata B on May 17, 2014 at 5:29am

Eating this way is the first time I've ever been satisfied... I'm eating raw till 4pm,

and then chowing down on big bowl of rice or rice noodles... epic. I spent a lot of time before embarking on this (the last 8 years) clearing out heavy metal toxity not eating meat, dairy and getting my bowels and stomach in order...

It's like this was meant to work... trimming down consistently and GOOD ENERGY. I think eventually I'll eat less cooked but right now as my thyroid heals and the mental fog lifts and the body heals... I'm alright with my cooked evenings. Blessings!

Comment by Genevieve Parry on April 2, 2014 at 8:32am

I think Anna is right. Freelee and Harley were primarily raw for awhile. They healed their metabolic damage and improved their fitness levels and thus can eat endlessly without gaining weight. So, raw is the key for those who have fasted or dieted in the past- those with metabolic disorder, because cooked foods are not our optimal diet and have too many calories/not enough nutrition/fiber to keep us satisfied.

 

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