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High Carb Cooked Vegan Discussions

This is a group for those wanting to eliminate cooked foods from their diet OR for those follow a high carb cooked vegan lifestyle. Please keep all cooked food discussions to this group. Thank you!

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Some guidelines

Welcome! Feel free to talk about cooked VEGAN food here.  We suggest you stick to discussing high carb cooked vegan foods like potatoes, root vegetables, rice with minimal dressing if any as they are the most healthful cooked food choices. Below is a transition diet I 'created' for those of you coming from a SAD lifestyle and wanting to make the switch to a high carb RAW vegan lifestyle.

Here are some guidelines that we support, put together by the super helpful PK

  • Cooking is for emergencies only such as financial reasons and or there is no ripe fruit available, then low fat cooked starches may be an acceptable back up plan.
  • It's always healthier to steam than any other cooked method.
  • Corn and Root vegetables digest better than grains like rice.
  • Always choose foods that are vegan and promote compassion towards our fellow earthlings. We do not support the discussion of non-vegan cooked foods in this group or on the 30BaD forum.
  • Avoid dairy products for compassionate and health reasons:  http://www.notmilk.com/
  • Cooking denatures food.  Try to plan for at least 75% of the diet to be raw fruits and leafy greens.
  • Cooked foods should still be low fat for weight control and cardiovascular health and optimum energy.
  • Continue to focus on high carb high calorie sources and the more nutrient dense, the better.
  • Fruits do not mix well with cooked foods and or grains.  An idea is to eat fruit meals during the day, and perhaps end the day with a big salad and bowl of steamed rice.
  • Cooking should be simple, with as little processing and as few ingredients as possible, and foods should resemble their original states such as steamed broccoli verses cookies.
  • This is not a license to kill foods with salt and spices or to eat McDeaths french fries.  A bowl of steamed rice is fine, hold the oil, salt, and spices.
  • Continue to follow other guidelines such as avoiding booze, tea, coffee, soda, drugs, etc.  Read more here: http://www.rawfoodexplained.com/science.html
  • Cooking is for emergencies only, and not for a transition tool.  We still recommend going 100% low fat raw fruit and leafy green for optimum digestion and health results.  As we have said before, one cannot ride two horses (or bikes;D) with the same bum.  For best results and to get over addictions, just do it 100% if and when possible.
  • While high carb cooked vegan fare makes for the best backup plan when we're not able to find delicious raw fruits and vegetables, the use of toxic ingredients defeats the benefits of this fallback position. Therefor, in all cooked-food discussions, we expect members to abide by our list of unsupported ingredients. If you're going to eat cooked vegan food, keep it simple: bare cooked potatoes or rice, steamed veggies and such.
  • Whenever possible, choose ripe fruits and leafy greens.  Primates and humans cannot manufacture vitamin C, and must consume it in fruit and greens, or they may develop sub-clinical symptoms of scurvy which could include things like skin ulcerations and mouth infections.  Grains and some beans do not have vitamin C, and some beans and potatoes that do have minimal amounts, may have the vitamin C rendered useless via cooking.
  • Continue to consider that some of the cheaper so called starch foods have little or no vitamin C, and are usually high in protein.  These foods may cause an acid condition in the body that can contribute long term to arthritis, osteoporosis, tooth decay, kidney problems and kidney stones and cancer.  Grains can also cause indigestion, Crohn's disease, irritable bowel syndrome, celiac disease, colitis, constipation, diarrhea, bloating, gas, and indigestion.
  • Again, it is recommended that as soon as circumstances allow, that one should resume eating a low fat raw fruit and tender leafy green based diet.  For some folks, that may be as easy as downgrading the house and car payment.
  • To save a little money now and go the starch route, only to get sick and have to pay for doctors and medications later on is a decision one will have to ask themselves if it is worth the risk involved.

BTW, I have known millionaires and people making over 100K a year who cannot afford fruit because they are maxed out financially on the McMansions they have bought and the beamers and benzes they drive.

 

Thanks folks!

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Comment by Genevieve Parry on April 2, 2014 at 8:32am

I think Anna is right. Freelee and Harley were primarily raw for awhile. They healed their metabolic damage and improved their fitness levels and thus can eat endlessly without gaining weight. So, raw is the key for those who have fasted or dieted in the past- those with metabolic disorder, because cooked foods are not our optimal diet and have too many calories/not enough nutrition/fiber to keep us satisfied.

Comment by Brad Ramsay on March 29, 2014 at 2:24am
Anna, in my experience, Sabrine is right. I came to this lifestyle pretty much unable to digest anything. I've been eating raw and cooked vegan food for almost a year, and my digestion, energy and overall health has come a long way. But it definitely would have been a much more comfortable, easy and fast road had I had access to all the good fruit I wanted.
Comment by Sabine Corinne on March 29, 2014 at 1:25am

I was thinking the exact same thing. I think freelee and DR did raw for a couple of years before adding cooked again. would love to get some answers too about this. Of course we know the people in china are doing very well on high carb low fat cooked though, with little diseases. I'm thinking the healing will only go a little slower.

Comment by Anna on March 28, 2014 at 11:35pm

There's something that's been bothering me for a while. When I first started researching the 80-10-10 lifestyle it seemed people were primarily talking about completely raw. I didn't really ever know about cooked carbs until Freelee's video on Raw Till 4 with her mom. I know that people who've moved from raw to cooked are still doing good but I read a lot about people gaining weight as well. Even Harley said something about eating cooked to gain a little weight in a previous video. But, what I want to know is eating cooked alright for people who've been raw for a long time to the point where their metabolism is insane that it's alright for them to transition into eating some cooked food without any issues? No one ever really talks about this. They just say that it's ok to eat some cooked low fat carbs. Maybe it's only alright once your body is to the point where it's healed quite a lot and metabolic damage has been healed. What about people who have metabolic damage and they start out on a cooked carb diet. Will they ever heal the damage? It's kind of like when people go to water fasting to heal their health issues.

Comment by Kim Alissa on March 27, 2014 at 8:13pm

Cooking things and  then draining the water "washes off" some of the nutriens. That's why steaming is considered healthier. But if you boil rice in just enough water so that by the time it's done, there is no more water left, it doesn't make any difference.

Comment by Tera on March 27, 2014 at 5:23pm
I'm new to this lifestyle change and am curious is their a difference between using a rice cooker and cooking rice on the stove top.

Also does anyone work nights and what do you eat in the middle of the night at work?
Comment by Allie on March 24, 2014 at 6:53am

Steamed! I actually just bought this rice cooker that has a built-in veg steamer! I'm gonna use it tonight to steam some sweet potatoes for a sweet potato curry I like to make! So excited. 

Or if you already have a rice cooker you could get a pot that is meant for steaming like this one (a bit more pricey) 

And if you're looking for something a bit cheaper you can get an insert for your pot to steam veggies. 

Hope this helps! :)

Comment by Emma K Birkey on March 24, 2014 at 6:39am

I personally prefer when most of my vegetable are cooked, like broccoli and asparagus. and I like my sweet potatoes cooked, is there a healthier way to do that than on the stove-top? 

Comment by Alisha Marie on March 22, 2014 at 1:59pm
It scares me when I hear how much Harley spends on food a week, what he spends on food in a year would be what I made in the last three years. As a new fruity I'm scared to see if this is sustainable for me, because of Finacial restrictions. I want to thrive, but I don't want to be homeless to do it. I love your message and I know this is correct, it's just scary when I look at the numbers.
Comment by Brad Ramsay on March 21, 2014 at 10:48am

They're about the same as white potatoes for me. Not optimal, but kinda yummy and pretty nutrient dense. I eat them maybe once a week, eventually I won't eat them at all probably. Trust your gut! :)

 

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