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Beginners in a fruitarian/raw vegan lifestyle


Beginners in a fruitarian/raw vegan lifestyle

I created this group for supporting each other during transformation to raw vegan lifestyle. Also here will be given some tips how to suceed in a fruitarian diet, whats the most comon mistakes made by raw food eaters and a lot of more usefull info.

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Low calories on certain days?

Started by KikiKooks. Last reply by KikiKooks yesterday. 4 Replies

So I've been doing a RT4 style diet for a short time now. I'm starting to feel the desire to move more in the last day or two but haven't been exercising yet. So not active yet.I eat till I'm full…Continue

Tags: loss, weight, low, ratio, calories

IM NEW how to ease into this lifestyle

Started by chocolatey. Last reply by chocolatey on Sunday. 3 Replies

ive been loving and eating all sorts of animal products ever since i was born, but had just recently discovered that my body is intolerable of a bunch of food: dairy, eggs, gluten, yeast, soy just to…Continue

A Newbie's Cry for Help - No Weight Loss and Criticism from Peers

Started by Jade Stone. Last reply by Lindsay Lou on Saturday. 25 Replies

    So I'm a newbie... on the LFHC raw (till 4) vegan lifestyle train for the last 10 weeks.  My original goal was weight loss (I have 70lbs to lose), but have been loving all of the health benefits…Continue

Juicing vs. Blending?

Started by Valheru. Last reply by Valheru Aug 22. 2 Replies

I keep hearing about Juicing in negative connotation but Freelee has blended drinks all the time. Is blending not juicing? Or is juicing just extracting the juices from fruits and not having the…Continue

Tags: blending, juicing

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Comment by KayCS on October 26, 2011 at 8:22am
Hello all!!!!! 5 days ago i crossed over from vegetarian to raw vegan. It has been the best jump I have ever done with diet. SOooOOO Im always looking for Quick raw recipes i can take to work...lunch & snack. Im making sure Im changing it up so i dont get bored with my food :). If you have any raw medium to low carb recipes for lunch please feel free to post on my wal....OOO yea and simplel!!!!! woooOO!!! ...sorry im just excited about my weight lose so far lol.
Comment by Nicolette Barnes on October 26, 2011 at 5:05am
What kinds of foods did you eat when you were away that lead you to feel this way? As much as I believe that the fresh organic fruits and veggies are the way to go - I can't say I feel any different when I eat some cooked veggies (no oil of course) or gluten-free grains. I have actually been eating air-popped popcorn these last few days and always feel a little nervous about it, but I actually feel better incorporating some of these foods into my diet. I just try to keep them to a minimal percentage of my diet. I am finding that I do better listening to my body than just forcing myself to abide by all the raw-food-rules. I mean what good is it to follow a "perfect diet plan" when your body doesn't function optimally on it?
Comment by ali8un on October 25, 2011 at 4:48pm
Am away from home and made the decision to not be pedantic about my diet whilst staying with other people. Starting to really feel it a week later. My mouth tastes disgusting, my tongue is white, I am waking in a sweat at night, I have a very uncomfortable tummy :( Time to give my body a break and more living food!
Comment by Emilee on October 16, 2011 at 6:43am
Sorry for all who got my message yesterday via email, just bacame a member and was actually trying to post my message on the wall. Nice to join ans look forward to communicating ;)
Comment by Drea on October 13, 2011 at 6:39am

I'm almost at a month...and I'm weighing whether to continue this journey or take it for the nutritional experience it has been:

"so how's it been....."

1. going to the bathroom more freqeuntly ( 4 times at night (BROKEN SLEEP)

  **more (boo-boo) as well...at times I felt like my stomach was so heavy!!!  I'm about up to hear with Bananas!!!

2.  Food craving/ addictions:  honestly mine are not bad!!!  I said I was giving up rice cakes..and I did for about 4-5 days!!!..Rice Cakes/ small pack Cashews ( i like to CRUNCH)....the only things out of the fruit norm...i would eat!!  I try to be anti-fat..so I won't buy avocado!!!

3.Honestly don't have more energy!!!  I feel sluggish often..but I still do my workouts best I could!

4. I'm always thinking about my next meal...like Ilive in the kkitchen...not cool!

5. Hooray for the added glow in my skin!!! Hooray for soaking up the sun when its out!!!

6. Kudos to learning Mono-meals...and better digestion

~~I try to eliminate weight loss or figure maintenance as a means to dive into fruits..asmuch as I look for better digestion...and finding a nutrition regimen that works for my body  type...I'm still turning front side back side in the mirror!!!!

7, ABS--nice and flat!!!

8. I'm up to at least 1800 calories..major jump from my early 876..mainly BANANAS!!!!

9. Guess what...I'm still supa hungry!!!  Eat MORE FRUIT!!!! ~~~been doing that!! --> ((No)) that makes me hungrier!!!  and then its 10pm....and I feel starved!!!  Not good!

10.  SO I'm weighing this in the balance of what I really want to do!!! Happy for have the exposure, but I'm listening to  my body...and it's telling me..oh-no, we need something else!!


**Won't run to get a burger..that's not the food of my choice....no is mash potatoes or pasta!!!  Love Raw food....Love eating fruit all day!!!  ( Honestly, not really....but the folks around me would never be able to guess that!!!


**We'll see!!!!!

Comment by PhoenixWay on October 11, 2011 at 12:04pm

Haha, funny how my passion is coming out here...a little like DR, no doubt.  FP seems like a nice-enough guy and a promoter of raw foods...but it just rubs me wrong when people criticize others and do the same thing.  He acts like his beliefs and principles are scientifically-verified.  The fact is, that science is used by people to prove what they want to prove.  Science is also still catching up to truth...and still lags behind in many respects.  So, if you want to follow the FP program, go ahead and follow him.  Otherwise, learn to follow yourself.  You'll be happier.  ;)

Comment by PhoenixWay on October 11, 2011 at 11:51am
My response to Patenaude?  Who made him the God of Knowledge?  Anyone who defers to "scientists and medical professionals" loses my respect, to a great degree.  Who has led America down the path of sickness and disease?  These same people he defers to.  Scientists and medical professionals, in large part, don't know crap about holistic, natural health, and especially about nutrition.  Further, FP clearly lacks a spiritual relationship with his food.  Thus, in his statement "Don’t tell me that when you blend your vegetables, or chew them aggressively in your month, that you’re not destroying that “life force” that they supposedly have" he is focusing on EITHER OR instead of BOTH AND.  When I eat the food, whatever it is BECOMES ME.  We merge in both a physical and spiritual sense.  The food gives me whatever it has...whether that's life and health or death and toxicity.  So, it absolutely matters how alive and healthy the food is when we eat it.  Of course, we all agree that the healthiest food is just off the vine, but he would have us believe that boiled grains or steamed veggies have the same nutritional value as a tomato or apple that's been sitting on a table for a few days, and still tastes fresh and delicious when we bite into it.  Another sad aspect I observed is this same lack of spiritual awareness or appreciation for animals.  So, what happens when we take an animal out of it's natural environment, put it in captivity, shoot it w/drugs and hormones and western "medicines" and keep it trapped and confined?  Then, we have the audacity to feed it food that it doesn't normally eat and make a scientific discovery that the animals PREFERS the new food?  Really?  Is that a fair test?  Are there any OTHER factors influencing this preference?  If I captured you and stuck you in a f***ing cage for months and started feeding you all sorts of crap, you'd probably change your diet, too.  All animals adapt to survive.  That's what we do.  FP clearly looks down on animals, condemning their lives as bad ones that we would never want.  Yes, there is competition.  Yes, there is predation.  Does that mean their lives are misery?  He's like the missionary who goes to a gorgeous, pristine wilderness, discovers a happy, healthy native people there, and proclaims, "Look at all these deprived people who don't have cell phones and TVs and modern MEDICINE!  Let's help them and change that!"  The most helpful part of his rant was about how humans have likely adapted physiologically in the 10's of thousands of years we've been cooking food.  No doubt...we clearly don't look like Neanderthals anymore.  Personally, I believe that mild heating (though not steaming or boiling or frying or baking above 118) depletes little of the food's value...but we must measure the gains of warmness against the loss of nutrition.  And finally, his comment that there is "no evidence" that steaming veggies or boiling rice creates toxins...is just a bit ignorant.  Cooking food changes the food...to something the body doesn't really recognize.  Anything in that category is a toxin.  So, not being one to "shove my ideas down other people's throats" (I get his point about raw vegan vigilantes), I simply ventured one man's opinion.  I hope you enjoy it.  Peace.
Comment by Eric Rivkin on October 11, 2011 at 11:16am

Question everything, rawbies. Review researched, balanced, common sense advice on a raw food diet by Fred Patenaude.....


Top 7 Bad Arguments in Favor of a Raw Food Diet

Is this reliable myth-busting scientifically verified information or not...

1  We need the enzymes in raw foods to help our digestion.

2. Raw foods is the diet of our “species”

3. We didnt adapt to cooked foods

4. We are the only animal on the planet who cooks food

5. All cooked food is “toxic”

6. There is lifeforce in raw foods that’s destroyed when you cook it 

7. The Bible Says we should eat raw

Comments anyone?

Comment by B'jaia Ben-Avari on October 11, 2011 at 3:02am
Lekoma, the video you put up is fantastic and provides some serious reflection on how we embrace and live life. Thank you.
Comment by Nicolette Barnes on October 9, 2011 at 2:21pm

Wow. This is all really helpful, uplifting, encouraging, and inspiring stuff you guys! Thanks so much! Yes, I think that based on the fact that by eating this many calories a day has allowed me to continually lose weight even though I don't have much left to lose shows that I probably do need more calories. The last time I weighed myself I was 87 lbs. I am 5'6" and feel that my ideal weight (where I feel and look my best) is around 100 lbs (obviously there is no exact number as weight will fluctuate from day to day and even throughout the same day). I have a small frame. I would love to be able to completely forget about calories and calorie counting - just be able to listen to my body without worrying that I will eat too much and then gain weight. I have no problem appetite-wise! I can eat tons, I just never let myself, because again, I am afraid of gaining weight. You are right VP that 'We need to learn to be driven by love and trust rather than by fear.' I have to start trusting that if I listen to my body's hunger signals, and feed it the best quality fuel I am able to, that I will not gain too much weight.

I think that one of the hardest things for me in eliminating ALL cooked, is the fact that I am EXTREMELY sensitive to bitter tastes, so when I am craving something non-sweet, so no fruit, there are very limited veggies I can tolerate, as I find most of them bitter. This is why I will cook my broccoli, or why on the odd occasion I have some grains, because they are more bland than bitter or sweet. Other times, like when I eat some cooked sweet potato or oatmeal, I am also gravitating towards the warmth, as I am always soooo cold! (Being thin and living in Canada!!) I am doing my best right now though, and I would say that at least 95% of my diet is raw!! (I don't do any nuts or seeds either - it's mostly fruit, and a tiny bit of greens)(I've been addicted to making a banana 'ice cream'/pudding type thing - blending frozen bananas with other fruits, sometimes some pureed spinach, or soaked dried fruits.... I have this several times a day!!)


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