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Beginners in a fruitarian/raw vegan lifestyle

I created this group for supporting each other during transformation to raw vegan lifestyle. Also here will be given some tips how to suceed in a fruitarian diet, whats the most comon mistakes made by raw food eaters and a lot of more usefull info.

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RT4 NEWBIE!! DESPERATELY NEED HELP! AM I GOING TO FAIL??

Started by Maddie M. Last reply by sean sullivan yesterday. 9 Replies

OK so I'm 18, live in Australia on a student budget and have been vegan for a while but decided to harden the flip up and go HCRV (it's actually so much cheaper haha)!!  I just bought my first tray…Continue

Tags: help, lunch, unripe, bananas, newbie

rawtill adaptation ;?

Started by chiara*mazzolin*di*fiori on Thursday. 0 Replies

Hey guys ;) for school reasons i find more comfortable having the cooked meal at lunch instead of dinner, if you have/had a similar situation, do/did you find big differences from raw till 4 formula?…Continue

Fructose sirup

Started by Diana Hassmannová. Last reply by michael on Tuesday. 10 Replies

Hello everyone, please help! I just found out there is fructose sirup added to the dates I eat. I'm not even sure what that stuff is, does anyone here know? Could it be bad, unhealthy, cause weight…Continue

Nuts

Started by Melissa. Last reply by English Rose on Tuesday. 5 Replies

Would a meal of just nuts be ok?  I am still transitioning and my goal is to be fully raw.  Nuts really help, but I am finding that mixing them with bananas is not working out to well for my…Continue

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Comment by Eric Rivkin on November 16, 2011 at 5:33pm

It feels good to inspire you, dear Jessica. I have hundreds of delicious recipes available in TO LIVE FOR! with some really hearty dishes for northerners I proved that even meat eaters love, like Squash soup sweetened with apricots. Please email me at emrivkin@gmail.com if you want information. Rawk on!

Comment by Jessica on November 16, 2011 at 5:12pm

That's great to hear Etain! I also follow the "listen to my body" philosophy and if apples are all around me and delicious (and not totally void of nutritional value), then down the hatch they'll go! And judging by your well-being, apples have a lot of energy and hapiness to offer.

 

Eric - Thanks so much for the inspiration! This is going to be my first winter on LFRV, and i've already started to worry about what's to come. But now I can't wait to enjoy all the foods you've mentioned! And feel good about eating them, without worry that my choices are affecting precious mother earth and her ozone, or that they're affecting my body via nutrient poor tropical fruits that were picked unripe a month ago

Comment by Eric Rivkin on November 16, 2011 at 4:53pm

I have good news for raw vegans in cold climates! I lived in Minnesota as a raw vegan for 10 years,  taught raw food classes there, including discovering and teaching all about the abundant wild foods our ancestors thrived on when picked fresh in summer, and preserved dried or in cold storage like root cellars for winter. There is no need for tropical fruits when the northern areas are abundant in berries, wild roots such as carrots, burdock, cattail, and abundant nuts and seeds to store away and either sprout or eat whole during the winter to burn the calories needed. SO many northern  fruits that can be eaten fresh or preserved for winter by drying in the sun or dehydrator, or reconstituted with spring water or melted snow. One of the few things I do not agree with the 811'ers about is the non-local push for eating expensive, unripe, nutrient-deficient fruits from far away. I think a 100 mile radius is a good rule of thumb for local eating today. Northern fruits, nuts, seeds, sprouts, have everything you need - I miss them in Costa RIca sometimes - gojis, raspberries, blueberries, peaches, apples, plums, apricots, cherries,  - yikes, the list is endless for northern fruits. Seeds and nuts are most abundant in the north for good reason - we needed them and planted them wherever we migrated. In the shell the keep for months, with nutrients intact. Many like acorns and sunnies are sprouted. You get just as much high ORAC scale anti-oxidants from rosehips grown in north american forests as you would growing goji berries in Mongolia.

I believe it is absolute nonsense to assume a raw vegan cannot thrive wherever they live gathering enough wild and cultivated food within a 100 mile radius.

Comment by Jessica on November 16, 2011 at 4:29pm

sorry jimmy, meant to give you a shout out too. That's exactly how I feel about tropical fruit where I live. I mean I feel such a guilt for the environment every time I have something like i kiwi which i know went through hell and back just to get to me, was picked unripe, and left a trail of pollution leading to my plate

Comment by Jessica on November 16, 2011 at 4:23pm

Traci - Thanks for the calorie info. I'll definitely be keeping that in mind

Lekoma - That's what i've been striving to do and it's been working out pretty well. LOVE my farmers market and i pass by the farmers own land every day so i know it's being grown close :)

Don - I completely understand what you mean. I just feel that your post started to get a bit off topic. In the end apples were getting compared to rotting maggot covered pork meat. My question was about apples, and apples only, and their lack of mention in the LFRV world. I was worried they contained little to no nutritional value and i needed to start eating fewer per day and replacing them with another fruit (i'm new at this and still have yet to read 80-10-10 [and I honestly plan to buy it in the next few days, so i'll be caught up on nutritional info soon])

But i'm putting mother earth first here and choosing to eat limited amounts of tropical fruits that were shipped thousands of miles to where I live in central Pennsylvania, and insteading eating the fruit of the two apple trees in my yard that are producing a bounty of free delicious fruit. See where i'm comming from?

And indeed, the naked human body is obviously meant to live in the tropics and I agree that if that's where one lives, our systems run optimally from the fruit from that region. But the great brains of our ancestors were able to create clothing so their families could stay warm in a colder climate away from the competitiveness of the tropics. They moved away so their populations could grow and seek out newer lands with more food. That food was different, but still food. I now live in one of those climates. So if eating apples, a "lesser" fruit which is grown locally (100 feet from my door) keeps the environment a fraction of a percent cleaner, then that's what i'll do. 

Comment by PhoenixWay on November 16, 2011 at 3:24pm

Don, I could not have said that better myself...awesomely true.  Thanks for the hope, man.  I needed it.

Comment by Rawbert on November 16, 2011 at 2:53pm

Because they think of fruit as a dessert/snack and not a staple I guess.. they just don't know they could live on fruit and veg..:)

Comment by jimmy on November 16, 2011 at 2:47pm

Can anyone explain why the peoples of say Asia find the need to cultivate rice as a staple food and people of the pacific islands for instance rely on staples like taro,sweet potato,plantain and other cooked starchy foods,even though they live in the tropics and have an abundance of fresh fruit and vegetables year round?Why has the need arisen to go to all the effort to cultivate these foods?

Comment by jimmy on November 16, 2011 at 12:30pm

Well,its great to be able to eat tropical fruits,but how many LFRV actually live in the tropics?.Its totally unsustainable to be relying on imported fruits from 1000's of miles away.Even here in the subtropics its difficult and expensive to be eating things like durian,mamey sapote,mangosteen,etc,etc,even jackfruit despite the fact it can be grown around here.Mangoes are a once in 5 year crop here due to the humid climate and it often rains at the critical fruit setting stage,so there's no fruit due to anthracnose unless one gets out the poison copper sprays,etc.The only reliable,local staple high calorie tropical type fruits are bananas and avocado and if your lucky things like black and white sapote,custard apple,etc,although all these are not strictly tropical fruits.So how can people living in temperate climates have as their staple everyday foods tropical fruits?,also how do 6 billion humans all live in the tropics?.Early this year here in australia,almost the entire banana plantations in north queensland(90% of banana production)were wiped out by a cyclone,along with mango and papaya and other tropical fruits grown there.The price of bananas for the general population went up to $15/kg in the cities and are still average $6/kg today.Tropical fruits may be the fruits most desirable for humans but I think we need to get some perspective on this.Also,If fresh fruits are imported from 1000's of miles away,maybe the quality is not gonna be so great either,maybe there might be more goodness in a local apple,pear,stone fruit,berries or persimmon?,if one lives in temperate climes.

 

Comment by Traci on November 16, 2011 at 5:05am

Apples are great.  No reason to exclude them.  They are just lower in calories, so you'd have to eat more of them to get your daily calories in.  People just tend to gravitate towards bananas, dates, etc since they are higher cals and therefore less volume of food needed to consume in one day. 

 

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