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Beginners in a fruitarian/raw vegan lifestyle

I created this group for supporting each other during transformation to raw vegan lifestyle. Also here will be given some tips how to suceed in a fruitarian diet, whats the most comon mistakes made by raw food eaters and a lot of more usefull info.

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raw till 4 transition to fully raw

Started by jojojnr. Last reply by Lax Vegan Oct 13. 2 Replies

hey everyone,i have been high carb high raw vegan for 5 months and in the last few days i have been all raw... Just experiencing some extreme tiredness and moodiness that i didn't experience when…Continue

Fructose sirup

Started by Diana Hassmannová. Last reply by Diana Hassmannová Oct 9. 8 Replies

Hello everyone, please help! I just found out there is fructose sirup added to the dates I eat. I'm not even sure what that stuff is, does anyone here know? Could it be bad, unhealthy, cause weight…Continue

Oceanside, California

Started by MissBliss. Last reply by MissBliss Oct 4. 2 Replies

Anybody live in or around Oceanside?? If so, where are some good places to shop to get fruits and veggies in bulk?? I moved here recently and don't know of any sources! Help!Continue

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30 Day Raw Challenge!

Started by cecilie malene. Last reply by cecilie malene Sep 27. 4 Replies

Everybody, I am hosting a 30 day Raw Challenge, starting Monday the 6th of October!I know how much unity means and when we can join for a cause, it is so much more powerful in making positive changes…Continue

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Comment by Jessica on November 16, 2011 at 4:29pm

sorry jimmy, meant to give you a shout out too. That's exactly how I feel about tropical fruit where I live. I mean I feel such a guilt for the environment every time I have something like i kiwi which i know went through hell and back just to get to me, was picked unripe, and left a trail of pollution leading to my plate

Comment by Jessica on November 16, 2011 at 4:23pm

Traci - Thanks for the calorie info. I'll definitely be keeping that in mind

Lekoma - That's what i've been striving to do and it's been working out pretty well. LOVE my farmers market and i pass by the farmers own land every day so i know it's being grown close :)

Don - I completely understand what you mean. I just feel that your post started to get a bit off topic. In the end apples were getting compared to rotting maggot covered pork meat. My question was about apples, and apples only, and their lack of mention in the LFRV world. I was worried they contained little to no nutritional value and i needed to start eating fewer per day and replacing them with another fruit (i'm new at this and still have yet to read 80-10-10 [and I honestly plan to buy it in the next few days, so i'll be caught up on nutritional info soon])

But i'm putting mother earth first here and choosing to eat limited amounts of tropical fruits that were shipped thousands of miles to where I live in central Pennsylvania, and insteading eating the fruit of the two apple trees in my yard that are producing a bounty of free delicious fruit. See where i'm comming from?

And indeed, the naked human body is obviously meant to live in the tropics and I agree that if that's where one lives, our systems run optimally from the fruit from that region. But the great brains of our ancestors were able to create clothing so their families could stay warm in a colder climate away from the competitiveness of the tropics. They moved away so their populations could grow and seek out newer lands with more food. That food was different, but still food. I now live in one of those climates. So if eating apples, a "lesser" fruit which is grown locally (100 feet from my door) keeps the environment a fraction of a percent cleaner, then that's what i'll do. 

Comment by PhoenixWay on November 16, 2011 at 3:24pm

Don, I could not have said that better myself...awesomely true.  Thanks for the hope, man.  I needed it.

Comment by Rawbert on November 16, 2011 at 2:53pm

Because they think of fruit as a dessert/snack and not a staple I guess.. they just don't know they could live on fruit and veg..:)

Comment by jimmy on November 16, 2011 at 2:47pm

Can anyone explain why the peoples of say Asia find the need to cultivate rice as a staple food and people of the pacific islands for instance rely on staples like taro,sweet potato,plantain and other cooked starchy foods,even though they live in the tropics and have an abundance of fresh fruit and vegetables year round?Why has the need arisen to go to all the effort to cultivate these foods?

Comment by jimmy on November 16, 2011 at 12:30pm

Well,its great to be able to eat tropical fruits,but how many LFRV actually live in the tropics?.Its totally unsustainable to be relying on imported fruits from 1000's of miles away.Even here in the subtropics its difficult and expensive to be eating things like durian,mamey sapote,mangosteen,etc,etc,even jackfruit despite the fact it can be grown around here.Mangoes are a once in 5 year crop here due to the humid climate and it often rains at the critical fruit setting stage,so there's no fruit due to anthracnose unless one gets out the poison copper sprays,etc.The only reliable,local staple high calorie tropical type fruits are bananas and avocado and if your lucky things like black and white sapote,custard apple,etc,although all these are not strictly tropical fruits.So how can people living in temperate climates have as their staple everyday foods tropical fruits?,also how do 6 billion humans all live in the tropics?.Early this year here in australia,almost the entire banana plantations in north queensland(90% of banana production)were wiped out by a cyclone,along with mango and papaya and other tropical fruits grown there.The price of bananas for the general population went up to $15/kg in the cities and are still average $6/kg today.Tropical fruits may be the fruits most desirable for humans but I think we need to get some perspective on this.Also,If fresh fruits are imported from 1000's of miles away,maybe the quality is not gonna be so great either,maybe there might be more goodness in a local apple,pear,stone fruit,berries or persimmon?,if one lives in temperate climes.

 

Comment by Traci on November 16, 2011 at 5:05am

Apples are great.  No reason to exclude them.  They are just lower in calories, so you'd have to eat more of them to get your daily calories in.  People just tend to gravitate towards bananas, dates, etc since they are higher cals and therefore less volume of food needed to consume in one day. 

Comment by Jessica on November 16, 2011 at 4:54am

I haven't been able to get my hands on the 80-10-10 book yet, and perhaps this question is answered there, but as i've been active on this site this past month and reading up on LFRV, i've noticed hardly any mention of apples. Any mono meals someone talks about are never apples, any daily list of what someone ate really never mention apples.... I'm slightly nervous that my 4-5 apple a day habit isn't helping me, since some pretty seasoned raw fruitests seem to exclude them from their diet. Is the a reason bananas, persimmons, mangoes, and oranges seem to trump apples when it comes to fruit preference?

Comment by Don Purvis on November 15, 2011 at 1:58pm

@Brian...There are vegan gums and mints out there without aspartame. Check your local health food store and some of the larger grocery stores are also carrying vegan sections as well.

Comment by B'jaia Ben-Avari on November 15, 2011 at 1:21pm

Aspartame, as Don points to it is, well, something one does not want to have in their body.  Dr. Mercola has several articles on this chemical if one cares to do the research at www.mercol.com.  I will admit that transitioning to this way of eating is a huge change and for sure it does not occur over night. Keep working with it Brian.  It is worth it all. 

 

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