Beginners in a fruitarian/raw vegan lifestyle

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Comment by Nicolette Barnes on October 8, 2011 at 9:08am

Oh, and your advice to 'be patient' is VERY GOOD. I think when I try to push myself too hard too fast, I am not as efficient in the long run at achieving my goals.

Comment by Nicolette Barnes on October 8, 2011 at 9:07am

I know - it's pretty bad. I just have such a fear of calories that it is hard, but with so much encouragement from people like you and inspiration from people like Freelea, and DR, Dan McDonald, Dara Dubinet, among others, I think I'll be able to get through this. I think I am going to start by allowing myself to eat a little more cooked vegetables for a while while I kick the things like cereal and soy milk. Then once I feel stable there, will taper down on the cooked veg. Right now I usually have about one bowl of home made soup with cooked broccoli and sometimes beets each day, but in the past few days I have also had some cooked spaghetti squash, and sweet potato. I always get so mad at myself for eating these things, but I think that if I make peace with the fact that they are just going to help me in transitioning off the more processed things (even though I only 'cave in' for them once every few weeks) I will feel much better.

Comment by PhoenixWay on October 8, 2011 at 8:42am

Jeez, Nicolette, 1300 is a starvation diet, even if you're not exercising a lot.  You are actually fasting not eating.  That explains your thinness and starvation before bed...and of course if you're painfully hungry, you're not going to sleep as well.  Dear, you need to add about 500 more cals/day at least throughout the day...that's 5 more pieces of fruit for you!  When you increase your exercise after feeling more energized, you can add a few hundred more.  With fruit, you don't have to restrict...or even really worry about the cals.  Just eat until you're satisfied.  Learn to communicate better w/your body.  I highly recommended bodymind work for you...yoga, tai chi, massage, Thai...it will help you have a better friendship between mind and body, and a greater awareness of how you feel and what you need.  You'll even start to crave foods with the specific nutrients you're lacking...try to be patient.  One step at a time.  Breathe!

Comment by Nicolette Barnes on October 8, 2011 at 8:38am

haha I love it! "EAT MO CAWWBS." It's funny to think that even before I got into this lifestyle and learning about all the benefits of lfrv etc, I always knew that carbs were the best thing for my body to run off of. Of course, I was chosing all the wrong sources, but even in the SAD, if one componant is gonna trump the rest, the grains are gonna beat the fats and proteins!!

Comment by PhoenixWay on October 8, 2011 at 8:36am

The tomato story is inspiring.  GMO maters were REJECTED by consumers, so they stopped GMOing them.  That means we can do it again for other produce.  However, greed sniffs out new opportunity, like a dog looking for a place to piss or crap.  "They" got more insidious and started GMOing food they can HIDE in other food, like corn and soy products, sugarcane, beets.  Now, "they" are targeting rice...one of the world's biggest commodities...and probably hoping the Asians simply don't notice or care.  Evil always finds a way to spread...wherever there is weakness, i.e., ignorance.  Shine the light!  Bear the torch!  Shine on, you crazy diamonds!

Comment by Nicolette Barnes on October 8, 2011 at 8:34am

Well, the reminder about the calcium leaching thing is great, but I have tried for a couple weeks in a row only eating fruits and veg and there is NO difference in energy - if anything I have less. Not saying I think that the junk is therefore good for me, but it makes it hard when there are no benefits to experience in the now (I know in the long run it is def. going to show). As for the late night eating thing, I just don't know. I have tried several days not eating before bed, but I am up all night then, and sometimes don't get even a minute of sleep. It might be because I have next to no energy stores in my body for it to run off in the night. I am extremely thin. I gotta work on eating more fruit and not worrying so much about all the calories (I typically don't eat more than 1300 MAX a day) But I am not at all active.

Comment by PhoenixWay on October 8, 2011 at 8:32am

Btw, Nicolette...focus on addition rather than subtraction.  Hunger at night simply means (Harley's gonna love this):  EAT MO CAWWBS during the day, i.e., more fruit.  ;)  If you're hungry at the end of the day, you didn't eat enough during the day, simple.  I do find a little grain (though not accepted by 811) helps regulate my bowel...but not a good idea to eat (if at all) late at night.  You might consider a mono-island such as naners or melons or mangos to help you better transition to raw.  At least there's no confusion about what to eat!  It's a big change for the digestion to go fruitarian, which has gotten lazy and sluggish eating cooked and junk foods.  Give it a little time.  :)  And try to practice some meditation/relaxation/yoga so you don't fixate on it...get outside, enjoy the beautiful fall weather...and go w/the flow.  Helps digestion, too.

Comment by PhoenixWay on October 8, 2011 at 8:25am

Well said, John re eating late at night.  But...guilty at times...though it's usually fruit.  ;)

Comment by John Jasper on October 8, 2011 at 8:12am

Nicolette, your before-bed snack is surely just a bad habit that needs to be kicked.  My problem was always having to have a sweet after the evening meal and it's been a real struggle to beat it.  After a year or more of having no success, I've started winning this battle and it feels great.

When you eat too close to bedtime you rob your body of the great benefits of quality sleep and the opportunity for healing.  The body has to process that food or else it will rot in your stomach so energy is diverted from the maintenance processes and because of the activity, you cannot obtain the deep levels of sleep required for serious maintenance work.

If you were eating fresh fruit, it would still be inadvisable but eating unhealthy items such as cheerios and soymilk is just multiplying the burden on your body.  These products are acid-forming and as such will require calcium from your stores to neutralise the waste products.  The ultimate store of calcium in the body is teeth and bones so whenever I'm tempted to have something unwholesome, I remind myself that this product will probably rob me of calcium from my teeth and/or bones.

Through this method, I'm retraining my mind to see past the artificial flavor of unwholesome products and focus instead on the detrimental affects they cause.

To be sure, kicking the habit will take some intestinal fortitude but once you've gone a few days without it and started noticing the improvement both in sleep and early morning energy, you'll see that it's worth the effort. :)

Comment by Myca on October 6, 2011 at 5:30pm

Nicolette, I always eat before bed. An Apple or banana. Something light and wonderful. I always sleep so much better.

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