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Permalink Reply by Julie on February 19, 2010 at 1:04pm

This is the email I sent - I tried to keep it uplifting....

Clint,

I love the concept of 'living as if it's the last year of your life.'
Fantastic practice!
No doubt received countless emails about your death ceremony.
I protest it of course.
I don't care how humane you you say you will kill an animal - it's still unnecessary.
For one it's biologically inappropriate for humans to eat flesh.
(Do some research- no claws, no fangs, super long digestive track etc)

Wouldn't it be much cooler and totally win you a huge amount of fans to celebrate in a more exotic ceremony using an awesome hand woven cornucopia filled with an amazing selection
of exotic fruit! Man have you seen dragon fruit! Beautiful.

You've seen those images of tribal celebrations where they bring in a big board filled with tropical fruit carried by 2 people. That would be a beautiful celebration.

My hope is that you would choose a higher path and try
something else than the sad event that you have planned.

Sincerely,
Julie Howell
Texas

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Permalink Reply by pradtf on February 19, 2010 at 1:13pm

that is a very fine letter, julie!
thx for posting it - i'm sure it'll give people ideas.

in friendship,
prad

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Permalink Reply by pradtf on February 19, 2010 at 4:48pm

i've sent the email copied below to
Clint@TheLastYearOfYourLife.com

in friendship,
prad



clint,

your program shows for the last day of your life celebration:
"This event will include the sacrifice of a live lamb which will become
the centerpiece of our celebration feast."
http://www.thelastyearofyourlife.com/The_Last_Year_Of_Your_Life/The...
(ya we know you left out the lamb bit, but it doesn't really change the
ambience)

now there is also some stuff in there about ritual death and rebirth
there. so what are you going to do? bring the lamb back to life?

perhaps, you'd enjoy the story below about another lamb whose existence
changed a kingdom. you could contribute to that change and people would
really get their money's worth.

--
In friendship,
prad

... with you on your journey
Towards Freedom
http://www.towardsfreedom.com (website)
Information, Inspiration, Imagination - truly a site for soaring I's


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There are many stories told about Buddha the Compassionate One. They
carry the eternal message with a simplicity that any child can
understand. Here is one of those gems.

The Buddha is taking a walk. He gazes at the beauty of the flowers of
the field and says: "O trees and flowers of the field! How trustfully
you turn your faces to the sun! And how trustfully nightingales and
doves take shelter in you! Alas! man hurts the birds and slays the
animals! The wisdom of man is drenched in blood!"

A herd of goats and sheep passes by. The Buddha finds that the herdsman
is driving them with difficulty: there is an injured lamb who is
limping and slowing the herd down. Affectionately, the Buddha takes the
limping lamb on his shoulder. The herdsman tells him that the animals,
100 goats and sheep in total, are being taken to the king for sacrifice
this evening. The Buddha, carrying the lamb, chooses to accompany the
herdman.

At the place where sacrifice is to happen, the man in charge is about
to strike the sword against the first goat, when suddenly the Buddha
exclaims "Great king! let not the man strike! Take my life as a
sacrifice, O king! and spare the goat!"

The words of the holyman move the heart of the king, who then asks the
Buddha to speak to the people. And the Buddha says:

"O men! you can take life easily but, remember, none of you can give
life! So, have mercy, have compassion! And, never forget, that
compassion makes the world noble and beautiful. Remember, too, that all
living beings are linked together in maitri [friendliness, compassion].
Therefore, resolve that you will live on bloodless diet. Verily, in
gentleness is the crown of life!"

The next day, a decree is proclaimed by the king. The order goes forth
that none shall henceforth kill for sacrifice or for private pleasure.
For life is one through mercy and compassion.

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Permalink Reply by Julie on February 19, 2010 at 5:21pm

That is beautiful - Thank you for posting! (and emailing!)

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Permalink Reply by pradtf on February 19, 2010 at 6:02pm

you are very welcome, julie.
clint even replied back ... well not exactly, but here's what i received. :D

in friendship,
prad


From: Clint Arthur
To: prad
Subject: Re: the lamb
Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2010 22:51:31 -0800
X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1077)

Thanks for listening to me on COAST TO COAST and I am happy to be sending you my book on Entrepreneurship.

Click on this link to get F R E E N E W P O W E R
http://www.freenewpower.com/Free_New_Power/Free_Book.html

I hope that my book helps you to succeed in your entrepreneurial endeavors, and please let me know if I can be of any help!

Also, please consider exploring the possibility of living 2010 as The Last Year Of Your Life -- we still have room in the program for people who are committed to making big changes in their life.

Sincerely,

Clint Arthur
Clint@TheLastYearOfYourLife.com

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Permalink Reply by Julie on February 19, 2010 at 6:13pm

I got one too, but couldn't find any other email address on that site. I didn't listen to him on Coast to Coast, but I should send them an email too and see what they think about his celebratory sacrifice. I think I will print my email out and mail to that address - but surely they will read the emails even if there is an auto responder?

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Permalink Reply by pradtf on February 19, 2010 at 6:25pm

you would think so because they are after your money.
i wouldn't be surprised if we end up on their elists :D :D

in friendship,
prad

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Permalink Reply by B on March 18, 2010 at 2:48pm

Here's another discussion on gitmr on the ostensible sentience of plants (ergo eat BBQ'd beef-steak sans guilt).. 'Raw Freedom' however is absolutely tearing up that whole argument.. he's largely just quoting the faq from abolitionistapproach.com and John McDougall, but godamn it's refreshing to see someone calling the corpse eaters on their B.S. :)

http://www.giveittomeraw.com/profiles/blogs/plants-are-actively-int...

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Permalink Reply by pradtf on March 18, 2010 at 3:57pm

good for rf! may be he should join here.
you seem to be tearing things up pretty well too.

what's with that dorothy again?
does she think cooking meat is what puts the problems in there or something?

does she think that the "3-fold higher risk of progression of and death from prostate cancer" associated with a diet high in saturated fat just goes away if you don't cook the meat? (nutrition reviews vol. 65 no 9)
"A huge factor in considering significant flesh consumption is that even raw meat has large amounts of saturated fat." (Susan E. Schenck, The Live Food Factor)

or how about:
"Dietary epidemiological studies indicate correlations between the consumption of red meat and/or processed meat and cancer of the colon, rectum, stomach, pancreas, bladder, endometrium and ovaries, prostate, breast and lung, heart disease, rheumatoid arthritis, type 2 diabetes and Alzheimer's disease. The correlation of all these major diseases with dietary red meat indicates the presence of factors in red meat that damage biological components. This hypothesis will focus on the biochemistry of heme compounds and their oxidative processes. Raw red meat contains high levels of oxymyoglobin and deoxymyoglobin and oxyhemoglobin and deoxyhemoglobin and cytochromes in muscle and other tissues."
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17045417?dopt=Abstract

geez! even feeding raw meat to dogs isn't recommended:
http://www.vetinfo.com/drawmeat.html

btw, does she understand why you should be cooking your meat? if she doesn't, you can show her some of the greger stuff, because he deals with it there. you'll really be amazed at the findings and the safety issues. essentially, it's safer to lick your toilet bowl than the kitchen counter of a corpse eater. if you want the info sooner, let me know and i'll dig it up for you.

in friendship,
prad

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Permalink Reply by B on March 18, 2010 at 4:16pm

what's with that dorothy again?
does she think cooking meat is what puts the problems in there or something?

She's just towing the party line.. the paleo/WAP folk argue that all RAF are healthy and yes it's cooking that's the problem and/or the cows weren't grass fed. It's hard to pin them down on that because they also don't believe in what they call the "lipid hypothesis", that too much fat (sat. in particular) is the cause for CVS.. of course it isn't the sole cause, it's just associated with greatly increased risk. but they argue that cholesterol is a nutrient and/or saturated fat in the diet is vital for health.. which would be convenient excuses for eating animals and their secretions were they actually true.

but that's brilliant, so pleased to finally see references to studies that address the raw meat/sat fat and cancer directly, I'll definitely throw those into the mix. muchas gracias my dual horned amigo :)


btw, does she understand why you should be cooking your meat?

if it becomes apparent that she doesn't we'll have to educate her. :)

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Permalink Reply by pradtf on March 18, 2010 at 4:27pm

btw, google is fine but if you want more scientific stuff try www.scirus.com
still not as good as say gosia's university access because you can't always read the articles, but more useful than google.

in friendship,
prad

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Permalink Reply by pradtf on May 14, 2010 at 3:39pm

here we go again!
everytime dave pollard tries to promote the veg idea, some people just try to take him down:
http://howtosavetheworld.ca/2010/05/13/vegan/

let's give this decent fellow a hand.

in friendship,
prad

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