This is kind of the most confusing aspect that I can't wrap my head around... I totally understand the low fat, low protein, living foods. But I don't understand why fermented foods and herbs are not included in the recommendations on this forum? They are low fat, low protein, they were definitively a natural part of the diet of primates and humans before we invented fire(the fermented foods were limited but they still existed to some degree such as fermenting fruit or pants that naturally fermented given the right conditions)
And I have only noticed benefits from consuming these. I'm not talking about the herbs that are meant to "treat symptoms". I'm taking about herbs that improve immunity, detoxify the liver, improve brain function, kill parasites, the tonics ect... Basically, I feel much better including these and not only eating agriculture foods... And just wanted to know your reasons for not consuming them?
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Permalink Reply by fruitsandnumbers on I would never eat something that takes so long and is so complicated to prepare - especially if there's salt or sugar involved!
Salt is poison, sugar is poison! Please don't eat those things, they will only do you harm. I think I worried you excessively about not consuming enough sodium. You should try to get as much sodium as you can without consuming any mineral salt, which actually hinders our mechanism of sodium recycling and storage. Mineral salt should only be consumed in emergency situations; and even then a quarter of a teaspoon is more than enough for a day (disregarding the sodium you obtain from food).
Concentrate on correctly following your diet and other aspects of your lifestyle (and eating your celery!) instead of trying to find palliative solutions to a problem that does not exist.
Permalink Reply by Anthony M on Thats not why i consume small amounts of salt, I was just putting that out there... And I am not 100% aligned with the recommendation on this forum, only about 95%. I find it not experimental enough. I notice benefits from things that people here think are bad...
Permalink Reply by Yogaranka on Hi Anthony,
Did you know that tea has caffeine in it too...not just yerba mate, but black, green and white tea also has tons of caffeine too.
The rest of the procedure is so convoluted, complicated and potentially dangerous, that I would not even want to go there...salt, sugar and 'friendly' bacteria to me means rotten food, potentially harmful, too many bacteria and your lights go out ;-))
Permalink Reply by Maria Velardo on I've been interested in trying out the ho she wu. How do you take yours (tea, capsule, tincture, etc)?
Permalink Reply by Anthony M on I actually make my own tincture because its cheap and you don't have to make tea everyday, but the tea is just a good :) Its amazing, its actually my favorite herb of all time because it contains loads of iron, and zinc, hard to get in the plant kingdom, as well having the most antiaging effects of any herb. And the overall increase of quality of sleep and quality of life you feel is awesome!
Permalink Reply by Maria Velardo on I look forward to trying it - especially to improve quality of sleep. Even though I have almost no grey hair, it would be good to keep it at bay.
I think I'll start with the teas - never tried making my own tinctures before.
Permalink Reply by Anthony M on Yeah I've tried maybe a hundred herbs in my life, and ho she wu is the one that I use the most because it gives me this feeling of general well being. I think you'll enjoy the effects :)
Permalink Reply by fruitsandnumbers on I ask you whether the herbs you are consuming bring you any long-term benefits or only short-term benefits. It may be the case that they only give you the impression of being beneficial, whilst in fact they are stealing your vital ('nerve') energy so as to give you a temporary boost, with negative long-term consequences. You must remember that several drugs such as cigarettes or cocaine or amphetamines can also bring the sensation of improved mental clarity and agility. Not all drugs have a numbing effect on us.
You should also remember that allopathic drugs also bring relief of several symptoms and sometimes temporary improvement in mood/mental agility/clarity. And you will probably agree with me on their terrible side-effects and long-term consequences.
Although you say the herbs you take do not only "treat symptoms" but address the cause of the problem, it is the former rather than the latter which appears to be the case to me judging from your description. Unless you can prove there are long-term benefits to the consumption of such herbs, you cannot assert as a fact that they address the root of disease instead of its superficial symptoms.
As a natural hygienist, I do not believe in herbs as having any curative power capable of acting over the cause of disease. I abide to the Thermal Theory of Health according to which all disease (by which is meant alteration of Health) is caused by functional derangement due to bodily thermal disequilibrium.
Therefore, in order to recover and maintain Health, one must - and it suffices to - reestablish the thermal equilibrium of the body and to achieve this end it is necessary and sufficient to live in accordance with the Laws of Nature. The treatments of Natural Hygiene are an artificiality which objective is to reestablish the equilibrium which has been lost with our unnatural way of living (as you say it yourself).
This is the only way of achieving and maintaining true Health. There are no magical treatments or shortcuts.
Though not yet mainstream, Natural Hygiene and the Thermal Theory of Health are firmly established scientific theories by the numerous successful cases of people who have been cured from the most diverse ailments, including several conditions deemed incurable by mainstream medicine.
Natural Hygiene has a solid basis to stand upon. Does the cure by herbs have a comparatively solid foundation?
I will however further investigate the herbs you have mentioned to see whether I have to reevaluate my theories or if they are in fact ineffective to act over the cause of disease or even harmful.
Wishing you happiness and Health and lots of tasty fruit,
In friendship,
Daniel
Permalink Reply by fruitsandnumbers on Health consists, as well as Hapiness, in Unity, considered bodily or cerebrally.
It is not to modify the Universal Order that we must know it, but rather to undergo it with dignity.
Unity can only result from a just preponderance of sentiment over reason and even over activity.
Hapiness consists, as well as duty, in better connecting ourselves with the (subjective) Great Being which resumes the Universal Order.
Auguste Comte
Permalink Reply by Anthony M on Permalink Reply by Anthony M on Permalink Reply by Anthony M on There have been documented cases of monkeys eating fermented fruit. And herbs are wild plants that were eaten by primates. Usually monkeys naturally know what local herb helps whatever health issue they are dealing with intuitively, according to a documentary once saw...
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