Please don't yell at me for posting this, but I have read through numerous discussions on the importance of getting enough calories. I understand that, however; I feel WORSE on more calories. I feel sick when I try to eat anything near 2000 calories. I absolutely believe that living 100% raw fruit and veg is the way to go, but I'm small so why do I have to eat alot?
I'm short and have a small frame so it doesn't take much to get me full. Plus I am trying to lose weight/fat so why overeat? Stats: Currently 5'0, 125 lbs(I think - I stopped weighing myself - it kinda drove me nuts), and I'm 21. I don't do much exercise because I never feel like I want to. I do go to college with a giant campus so I walk everywhere.
I am not 100% yet because I seem to always give in when I go home and my mom has a home cooked meal made. That is due to my own issues of relating my mom's dishes to positive memories and feelings in which I give in. That's a whole separate issue I need to control.
Today I had three apples and an entire bag of grapes. I don't plan on eating for the rest of the night. I'm stuffed. That's a good thing right? Facts and what people say tell me that this is wrong and not enough, but my body is saying otherwise. I'm SO confused!
Permalink Reply by Jasmine on "You are undereating and so your body will hold on to any fat it can get."
This is something that I have done research on my own, and I know, that when you undereat the body feeds off of the remaining glucose from food first, then stored fat (because stored fat = stored energy and your body needs energy to function), then muscle and other vital organs and tissues til you die. Now, I am not saying at all that undereating is ok because it is not. But what you stated, I believe to be a myth.
"I kindly disagree to your kind disagreement"
Haha, I love the honesty. Yes, I agree, I am sure that fruit can help the problem of me not even wanting to go near the food, but the thought of doing it will still be there unless I get to the core of the problem. Stating that emotional issues will disappear is one heck of a statement. We are humans and we have emotions and that is ok. Everything is not as easy as 1,2,3. Yes, the issue of not wanting to eat my moms food will disappear, but the underlying issue will still remain until I personally come to terms with them.
That is great that you gradually were able to build up the stamina to eat more and more fruit. I would love to connect back with you in four months and tell you that I am out-eating you ;)
Permalink Reply by Matt on I believe that Peter is right about the holding onto fat because I am a boxer and a girl that goes to my boxing gym and works out 2 times a day 5 days a week (definately more than me) and ONLY eats about 4 bananas in a day or 3 apples or something like that but HARDCORE cal restriction, and I'd say she's a bit overweight. I keep telling her that her bodies just going to give out on her at some point but she doesn't listen.
Permalink Reply by Eli on The body uses catabolism of muscle tissue to cope with famine. When you have less muscle tissue, your metabolic rate plummets and you require less calories.
When you calorie restrict for weeks, months, and years your body catches up causing you to gorge BIGTIME. Since you have less caloric demand, the extra calories easily get stored in adipose longterm. The endocrine system then is severely affected and leads to hormonal issues. A great example of negative feedback via homeostasis.
And yes, desire for more dense cooked food is yet another survival mechanism of the body. Once you ate 4K calories of fruit, you won't have that in attention. Try it for a day and say how much you want that cooked food.
Permalink Reply by Morgan on This is very interesting..
If only the majority of American's (and everyone) knew this.. but alas..
I was just watching the Revolution today - a popular daytime show that a lot of stay-at-home mom's watch, like me.
Today the 'fitness expert' (who is on every day) said .. and I quote "caffeine is healthy for you" and you should have "one to two cups a day". Also made a smoothie with greek yogurt and berries. This guy seems so nice, but all they ever ever talk about on these shows is calorie restriction and they compare calories with different snacks. - to make sure you keep snacks to around 100 calories!!
I once called a tv station because the 'nutritional expert' was touting all the benefits dairy had on the body. It was so baseless and uninformed...
I went on a carb-restricted diet for a while and it destroyed my already-stressed thyroid. It's interesting what you posted about the endocrine system and hormones. I can tell you I gained all 30-some pounds back on that diet, despite my resolution not to.
Permalink Reply by Eli on It takes only one biased/short term/lacking multiple variables study funded by industries/corporations to spread into the media. Hardly any as much anymore approve the fact fruits & vegetables reverse and prevent the major epidemics.
People enforce what the media has to say about these harmful products because human nature tends us to like hearing good things about our bad habits..
Permalink Reply by Andrew Keyes on Permalink Reply by Eli on Andrew, you're working to gain some weight I believe, right?
A lot of stress is put on the body being at such an unhealthy weight for your height.
I'd start with 4K a day for it to work or you're headed for some deep trouble if that trend is continuing.
no reason to give in to your moms home cooked meals. if how you are eating is truley benificial(and believe me it is) then it is your mom who will have to stop tempting you with cooked food. talk with her and explain your mixed feelings about her food and your diet of choice. if she truly loves you(which no doubt she does) then she will support you. i eat 80/10/10 and wife does not. she even wanted me to bbq a dinner for her like i used to, and i did it even though i did not want to. now a days i stand my ground and would never comprise who i am and my wife understands and respects me for my choices as i her and her choices. we dont have to agree or like anothers decision for the sake of "keeping the peace so to speak". truth and love are the most important things and deep down inside i think everyone knows it. as for stomache stretching and eating enough i tend to agree with dr graham's statement " if your not hungary for fruit your'e not hungary" something you will never experience if you have cooked food in conjunction with you fruit and greens. if you only eat 80/10/10 and workout even where you only sweat for 10 minutes a day you will go through a change where fruit nuts and greens are all you want. why you ask? i have no idea but i have experianced it first hand with myself and so have many people i have spoken to. stomache stretching(talked about in dr g's book) the stomache can hold up to one gallon of food and liquid. it took me two weeks to go from 4 bananas to 10. smothies from 20 oz to 64 oz. not hard once you try. i am very small framed by the way and wiegh 150 lbs at 6'1". good luck.
Permalink Reply by Jasmine on Thanks for sharing your story Rick. I had NO idea the stomach could stretch to hold that much food and liquid! It's amazing. I'm moving out soon, so hopefully it will not be an issue anymore. That's lovely that you and your wife work in conjunction with each others lifestyle choices. I hope to find someone like that one day too :) I'm not sure why am struggling so much with this in the beginning. I wonder if it is always this difficult in the beginning for everyone.
This is all good stuff and helpful to hear for me too!
Permalink Reply by Amelia on Dr. Neal Barnard, whose book on reversing diabetes is recommended by Harley, suggests you take your ideal body weight (in pounds), multiply it by 10, and make that the absolute minimum you consume on a daily basis. So, even if you are 5'0" and want to weigh 90 pounds (the low end of ideal), you should try to get in at least 900 calories per day. I calculated your apples and grapes (if you ate a whole pound) at around 525. Age, activity level, and metabolism all factor into whether or not you should eat a lot more (and at your age, you probably should), but almost anyone who has been doing or working on doing this lifestyle for awhile can testify that if you don't get enough calories, you will not succeed long term. Good luck to you!
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