Well, I don't know much about the potential presidential candidates, but I want to vote the hell out of this election, so we can finally GET RID of the Monsanto jacka**** in Congress. Who out of the presidential candidates, for those of you who are politically minded, does not support (or would likely not support) GMOs?
Republican, Democrat, Libertarian...doesn't matter to me. I need someone who supports MY values, and what should be the values of everyone, as they mainly are in England. Let's get rid of Monsanto.
Tags: 2012, GMOs, Monsanto, Obama, election, genetically, modified, organisms, president, presidential
Permalink Reply by Sunshine on February 7, 2012 at 8:28pm i think so get libertarian then push a social angle on the people level using consensus process as with occupy and we make our own social libertarianism ;)
Permalink Reply by ednshell on November 20, 2011 at 12:33am The elections are fixed with the computerized voting machines. 2000 was the last year we had a chance to make some of our votes count. I would support Kucinich just to hear him speak truth to power and over the air waves to the people in the debates. However he will not run against Obama, therefore I would support Ron Paul for the same reasons although he doesn't come close to the level of truth telling as Kucinich does imo. I may end up supporting a Green Party candidate as well.
The key to changing things in the U.S. government is not voting but a people's movement. We cannot count on a leader because "they" have and will kill all leaders. There are a few that slide by because of their connections like Ralph Nader and not making quite enough trouble like Ron Paul or Kucinich, although he did have a hit out on him at one point. JFK junior was going to run for the senate and then president but he was murdered so that he could not, he would have been way too influential.
Ralph Nader just came out with a book about how to do this for real. The things he has done for the U.S. people are just astounding! He absolutely knows what he is talking about.
http://www.changingworld.com/catalog/getting-steamed-overcome-corpo...
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Permalink Reply by Sunshine on February 7, 2012 at 8:23pm Jill Stein.... she would make a Jubilee and forgive debt. the greens would protect the environment and hold corporations accountable. ending corporate person-hood is so important
a Green Libertarian Alliance.. something all people and life could get behind
Permalink Reply by Sunshine on February 7, 2012 at 8:26pm i support(ed) Kuchinich too and he supports Paul and Nader too these 3 agree.
the real fight is against neo cons and blue dogs .
we need to be our own leaders certainly support our families and hold the 'lifeless powers' to a new standard maybe go back to where they have expire dates and we can remake society based on the will of engaged positive people who care about their existence and the future of our world.
Permalink Reply by mathyou on February 7, 2012 at 2:00pm i like him too, but unfortunately romney, in his vast wealth, will buy his way in.
Permalink Reply by wataFruit on February 7, 2012 at 2:32pm Most importantly is not to necessarily get Ron Paul elected, but to at least make people understand his message.
Permalink Reply by Kevinxvx on February 7, 2012 at 4:28pm Most important thing to do would be to show everyone that he's a racist, homophobic, ignorant old man from Texas. He is apparently a champion of gun rights but he favors state's rights to ban carry permits and handguns in general. He believes that working for yourself and only yourself will benefit everyone else. That does not work. Capitalism is a failure, or a brilliant system. Terrible for us, great for them. Ron Paul would only further the fascist domination of corporations v working class. @#%^ Ron Paul.
Permalink Reply by wataFruit on February 7, 2012 at 5:02pm Get educated dude.
Ron Paul's personal beliefs would not affect federal policy. He will allow more localized governments to dictate these policies, i.e. the states. If you don't like the policies of your state, move to another state and your former home state will be less competitive (states should want to be competitive).
Government is the problem; they inflate the money supply, over tax the populace and start unjust wars. We don't live in anything close to a free market, so stop blaming capitalism when we don't have it.
Not that social issues aren't important, but right now they pale in comparison to fiscal issues and ending war and Ron Paul is the only candidate with a sensible plan for both.
Permalink Reply by Kevinxvx on February 7, 2012 at 5:21pm The sole problem is private ownership of the means of production. We will forever disagree.
Permalink Reply by wataFruit on February 7, 2012 at 7:57pm Another venus project dude... pshhh.
I fully aspire to the goals you have in mind--using technology and the earth's limited resources to optimize production. I just disagree with your means as to how to get there. The problem is, in your communist view there is no pricing system, just resource tabulation; you cannot know the true value of one resource compared to another and thus cannot implement the most efficient solutions. Computers and scientists can only do so much, especially compared to worldly web of individuals pursuing their self interests in a pure free market.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxjwBZjADiM That's a very interesting unbiased debate on the topic. Watch it!
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