I wanna see more prove, I struggle now with many friends going back to paleo, or cooked vegan or higher fat or whatever and never go back to 811 again..
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Permalink Reply by Kenichisan on May 28, 2012 at 6:56pm I tried sometime High Fat Raw vegan, but I didn't feel good with it. The biggest problem were cravings for raw chocolate and when I date them in the evening I felt very nervous and couldn't sleep anymore.
Permalink Reply by Fruit fly on May 29, 2012 at 5:20am YEah cracao is a real issue, if I craved chocolate(but it is not my problem much) I went to datorate with cinnamon, vanila and little cracao or carob, you might like it:)
Permalink Reply by Craig Plunkett on May 28, 2012 at 7:12pm http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ucHEVNX2c9o
But copy your misinformed friends if you truly must.
Permalink Reply by Fruit fly on May 29, 2012 at 5:19am didnt help, they say, well I felt tired sleeping 10hours a day, all the time thinking about food and so on...but I guess most of them undereat, not consuming more than 3000kcal a day, some even 2000 and then going 4000kcal a vegetarian and they told me now I am, ok..haaha(They finally told me, you gotta point I may undereat, but I didnt felt the hunger more and I start to hate fruit and get bored). Also another that they look more musculin(probably self love issue), another that they find another interesting thing to focus on, that they felt like we all have a issue and they dont wanna be part of sick menthality people obsessed with health and food as a core of our living. Also that b12 goes to normal when eatign back animal products.And lots other answers.
Permalink Reply by Fruit fly on May 29, 2012 at 5:16am Thank you, yeah it is true, I just am told, they are not healthy and not necessary and maybe even most of them lie and they are selfsabotaging for nothing. I was thinking that the problem in food is more due to chemicals and so on, but the problem must be more hard core fromt he base like eating wrong food, coz I have done research and found the for example famous cancer is a problem as a human evolution is. Why?;) contrary noone on greens or fruit is having the same....
Permalink Reply by PK on May 29, 2012 at 2:37am Fruit Fly,
You might be surprised at how people tend to cycle back.
They might come to 811 for health reasons, and feel better.
After they do it a while, they get used to the feeling, and take it for granted.
They then decide to try other things. Some of our own members have come and gone, and come back. Because once they try those other diets for a few weeks or months or years, they realize they feel bad or their previous sicknesses return, and so do they return back to a fruitarian diet.
I like to think of a raw fruit diet as being like home, and there is no place like home and many people will come back from time to time:D
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Now as far as yourself, if you feel best on a fruitarian diet, stick with it. In about five years when you are healthy, and slim, and trim, and they are not, they will want what you have.
If you are convinced of the science and ethics (animal rights) yourself, then stick with it.
If you feel alone, hang out here @BaD.
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Now perhaps what you can do is creep on some of our older member profiles and see who has been active here since 2009 and what they have to say about it.
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If you want more scientific proof, you might want to read this free ebook, and possibly share it with your friends:
THE HEALTH REVOLUTION --ROSS HORNE--
Peace, PK
Permalink Reply by Fruit fly on May 29, 2012 at 5:12am PK you make me so happy with you words, I am the one, I have my results on and only on LFRV, but not on HCRV(maybe to much for my problematic lyphatic system, yet...but I keen towards it)...
Yeah I do feel alone, and also wory about my future in job, kids and so on...I just feel the world is not ready for such a diet, but I dont want to take medication and stay on classical diet(personally because the sickenss continue only the symtoms are not visible that much, but with increasing medication and also it does swing my mood like if I am completely different person.
I will do what have you recommend me.
And hey I have a nice satisfaction today, I wrote a huge thesis about frugivore diet and codex alimentarius danger and future bussiness with health and nutrition in the world. I defended it on "B" just because of grammar mistakes(coz i am dislectic/discraphic...which bdw. improve a little on raw as well)...anyhow, in that thesis I worte about group like we are and DR and FREELEE:)...I did post a disscusion about it or a blog(one of it). It was on a law school.
The commision ask me so much question, but I was totally knock them down:)...so happy, they ask me how to protect the czech republic from danger of codex alimentarius denutrition, I said, get out of european union soon get on frugivore diet or pray:D..of caurse I said it little more legal way, but basically push and defend the message out there:). I am really proud of my self, coz finally my dad even my mum now understand I am not a brainwashed moron on food, and I got a valid points:)
Permalink Reply by Fruit fly on May 29, 2012 at 5:13am I humbelly thank you for the ebook I go and read it!
Permalink Reply by PK on May 30, 2012 at 1:11am @Fruit Fly,
You are welcome for the ebook.
Great job on the thesis and standing up for what you believe in, and getting the message out.
I do not expect everyone to jump on my banana wagon the first time they hear about a fruit diet, but I look at it like planting little seeds of which some have bloomed at later times.
Keep up the good work.
Peace, PK
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