For all of you long term (and even successful short term) 811ers out there, what is the secret to fully sticking to and thriving on 811? I have been trying to adopt this lifestyle since February, and I keep failing and failing and I so desperately want to do this, but something always brings me back to cooked/animal foods. It's a gross habit, I know. I just want to finally clear up my skin and lose weight and feel energetic! (I am EXHAUSTED 99.99% of the day). I know that 811 is the answer to any and every health problem I have ever encountered, but for some reason I always fall off the wagon! I mean it's been over 6 months of me desperately trying to get this right, what am I doing wrong and how can I fix it to achieve long term success???
Any tips are super appreciated! :) Thank you all. <3
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Permalink Reply by Chris Randall on August 31, 2012 at 10:40am Hey Kayla, if you'd be able to fill us in on a few things that would really help us give you a better answer:
When attempting 811, what does a typical day of eating look like for you (being as objective as possible?)
What does your rest/sleep patterns look like?
Generally speaking, when people get exhausted and go back to eating dense cooked/animal foods, it just means they're HUNGRY! If your goal is to live that energetic passionate lifestyle you desire, then it's essential to do all the things that support that: eating sufficient fruit, eating sufficient vegetables, sufficient sleep, sunshine, emotional poise, etc. etc.
Best of luck! :)
Permalink Reply by Kayla Lee on September 1, 2012 at 10:08am When I try to do 811, I eat usually a large smoothie of about 5 bananas, 2 cups strawberries, and 3 or 4 dates. Lunch is usually 15 dates and about 4 or 5 peaches or nectarines, dinner is a super large salad and some more fruit! :) I love the fruit, just the cravings seem to bring me back. :/
And my sleep is super inconsistent, it ranges from 5-12 hours a night, depending on how late I stay up doing homework, etc.
Permalink Reply by Jon Fergus on September 1, 2012 at 11:58am Sounds like you're likely hovering around the 2500+ kcal/day mark :). But when lacking sleep and really using your brain, you'll need to up that though. Just remember, the less sleep you have the more energy your body needs. So, on days when you get little sleep, try to fit in another fruit meal. Aim for more like 3000-3500 kcals.
Sleep is definitely a key aspect to the lifestyle - without enough it's difficult to stay with the rest of the program.
Permalink Reply by Jenna George on September 2, 2012 at 11:20pm kayla- be careful mixing bananas and strawberries. Bananas and dates are both sweet fruits, while strawberries are acidic fruits, and they really shouldn't be eaten at the same time. Could cause bloating and whatnot.
Permalink Reply by Georgina TheFruitMeister on August 31, 2012 at 10:41am Uducate yourself on animal rights firstly. I was the same at the start until I FULLY understood the pain and torture innocent, sentient creatures have to go through just to satisfy our palates. Look up "If slaughterhouses had glass walls", "the best speech you will ever hear" by Gary Yourofsky, "Animals need to be taken off the menu", Adaptt.org, watch Earthlings again and again and again. If you eat animal products after watching all of those things, then you seriously need to re-evaluate yourself. That's what I did.
Permalink Reply by Georgina TheFruitMeister on August 31, 2012 at 11:18am Exactly, stick with Chris. he knows stuff!
Permalink Reply by Jon Fergus on August 31, 2012 at 4:54pm For all of you long term (and even successful short term) 811ers out there, what is the secret to fully sticking to and thriving on 811?
Two things:
1. The 'secret' to staying vegan is love of all life and the refusal to participate in causing suffering to sentient beings.
2. And the number one 'secret' for staying 811/HCRV: EAT ENOUGH!! Get enough carb cals from fruit! Number one reason people "fail" is not eating enough.
Permalink Reply by Vicki Sorenson on August 31, 2012 at 5:24pm Stop beating yourself up. This lifestyle/diet takes PRACTICE. It takes time to really get it all down, from surrounding yourself consistently with 1000s of fruit calories, to increasing your meal volume. Stop looking at all your effort as failure. When you slip, understand WHY it happended. Pick yourself back up, give you a big hug and lots of lovin'. Give yourself a good 3 year learning curve to get down pat. And please educate yourself about the disgusting facts of cheese and all dairy products, and the dispicable practices of animal factories. Then it will be more than easy to stay off the animal foods.
Permalink Reply by PopeyeLFRV on September 1, 2012 at 11:00am One thing that helps me and may help you, is to remind myself that those foods I used to eat, are produced with the sole intention of sucking me in and keeping me addicted, by people and companies who have ZERO interest in my health and well being.
Permalink Reply by Kayla Lee on September 2, 2012 at 2:49pm So true! Maybe that perspective will help me from falling back into that. I'm trying again tomorrow.. I'll never give up till I get there. I always keep trying and hopefully tomorrow will be a successful day. Thanks! :))
Permalink Reply by Peter Csere on September 1, 2012 at 11:02am How many people do you know who have tried 17 times to quit smoking cigarettes and they are still smoking a pack a day, 5 years later? The chemicals and intense flavors in cooked foods act on the same reward circuitry in the brain, and are just as addictive.
Barton Hoebbels, the world-famous reward circuitry researcher, said (paraphrased) "the only things that are as addictive to the brain as heroin are junk food and pornography."
So long as you keep trying, you will never fail. Keep incorporating the advice you get and the lessons you learn into your daily life. Keep getting 2500+ cals of super-ripe fruit consistently, and plenty of sleep, sun, and sport. Don't ever decide that you are going to eat cooked food the next day, or that you are going to eat cooked food that evening. Let every day and every meal be your Day #1 of HCRV until you get to day 2 and eventually day one million.
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