I am still researching the case on oils. Is plant oils all that bad? Olive oils according to Dr. Michael Greger are okay, according to Dr. NeaL Barnard all oils have a bad affect similar to animal fats.
According to Dr. Neal Barnard founder and current president of PCRM (Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine), “Vegetable oils in excess may contribute to cancer risk, as animal fat does. And all forms of fat and oil, whatever the source, contributes to weight problems” (pg. 154 Food For Life – Neal Barnard M.D.).
According to the documentary film Forks over Knives, 500 calories of plant foods will fill your stomach up naturally, however 500 calories of oils (whatever the plant oil is) is almost pure fat and barely triggers any response at all. Meaning, 500 calorie of oils fills your stomach about 15 percent.
What about fats like omega-3 like walnuts or flax seeds???
Your take on it. Thank you.
Permalink Reply by Michael Lanfield on January 30, 2012 at 6:21am recently from Durianrider
“It’s good for you bike chain, it’s good for massage. In terms of your food, I am not a fan of oil. I would eat some salad if it has some oil on it, but otherwise man the less oil you eat, the better your fitness and health is going to be. Always going to like, sludge up your system. We’re not designed to be coming oil. Oil is like refined fat. It’s good for massage, it’s good for your bike chain, but we’re not the tin man. We don’t need to oil our knees or elbows. We’re not a bicycle. Leave the oil for the bicycle; leave the oil for the massage. Just do the experiment”.
Permalink Reply by Michael Lanfield on January 30, 2012 at 6:21am But he doesn't base it on anything, just his opinion.
Permalink Reply by Windlord on January 30, 2012 at 6:26am These 3 vids say it better than a 1000 of my words :)
http://www.30bananasaday.com/forum/topics/attack-of-the-giant-salad...
Permalink Reply by Robert K on January 30, 2012 at 6:33am You should get a copy of 80/10/10 as it explains this pretty well. Basically oils are processed and are 100% fat. They are not suitable for humans. Fat clogs you up, gives you "sugar" problems like candida, diabetes,etc. and just tastes like crap alone.
You'll get enough fat from just fruits and greens alone, and you can add walnuts or flax seeds if you wish, but in great amounts they are too high in fat.
Permalink Reply by Michael Lanfield on January 30, 2012 at 6:54am thanks everyone!
Permalink Reply by Michael Lanfield on January 30, 2012 at 6:55am the 3 videos were very helpful. I have the 80/10/10 book, just hadn't had time to read it yet.
Permalink Reply by Peter on January 30, 2012 at 7:38am Lipards (fats) are essential in the human diet however 10% has shown in many studies to be sufficient.
Common plant foods that are high in fats are nuts, seeds, avocados, olives, etc.
Oils are derived from these foods so they are not as nutrious as eating them first hand where you get many other vitamins, minerals, carbohydrates and proteins as well.
There is no need to eat plant oils as they are a highly dense source of calories with a very limited range of nutrients.
Not an ideal choice.
Permalink Reply by DUNCAN LEWIS on January 30, 2012 at 7:46am Humans have digestive lipases so they are designed to eat fats/lipids just as we have amylases to digest starch. Refined oils are unnatural in the same way eating flour is. Refinement is the problem not the actual oils. eat the oil or starch in its natural form and there isnt going to be a problem.
Polyunsaturates, monounsaturates and saturates. They aren't that different if you study the chemistry - as long as they dont get oxidised. In fact, It's very likely that polyunsaturates are the most harmful if not eaten fresh.
Permalink Reply by Windlord on January 30, 2012 at 2:57pm Duncan, oil by definition is refined. Otherwise it is bound into its whole food form--corn, soy, coconut, olive, etc.
On this site, as per guidelines, internal oil consumption is not supported.
In case you didn't see the "whys" above, these vids are well worth watching:
http://www.30bananasaday.com/forum/topics/attack-of-the-giant-salad...
Permalink Reply by DURIANRIDER on January 30, 2012 at 5:36pm
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