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Permalink Reply by Durianwriter on Hmmm I usually don't wash, or rinse.
I think that washing ends up in me touching more contaminated stuff, vs if I just go pee than I don't touch anything. Usually I will open the door with my shoulder or coat sleeve and then just hover-pee, so I basically don't touch anything. Washing hands involves touching sink handles (gross), soap dispensers (also possible gross), and then if the paper towel dispenser isn't automatic, whatever gross piece of handle.
Maybe I'm just weird, but I usually feel cleaner if I don't wash my hands than if I do. Although, I do always wash hands before preparing anyone else's food.
Permalink Reply by Tasha Lee (.org) on page 249: (under reasons for vitamin B12 deficiency):
"2) we wash our produce.
a hundred years ago, people tended to bathe once a week or less, on average, and they did not concern themselves with fastidiously washing the surfaces of their fruits and vegetables as they do these days. in part, this is another result of agrochemical food production, as people have been misled to believe that pesticide residues can be adequately washed off by rinsing or scrubbing the outsides of their produce.
in the past, when people ate lettuce, celery, carrots, and other vegetables fresh from the ground, the soil left clinging to the vegetables often contained vitamin b12. they also obtained the nutrient from the bacteria-laden dirt that accumulates near the stems of apples, peaches, pears, and other core and stone fruits. but between the chemicals we apply to the soils and our obsessive fear of germs and bacteria, we effectively eliminate this source of the nutrient, as well."
(page 246: "as i see it, two primary vegan sources of natural vitamin b12 exist for humans, either of which, under ideal conditions, should be sufficient to provide the b12 to meet our needs:
first, vitamin b12 is a waste product of a bacteria that can be found in and on the foods we eat (of both animal and plant origin)...)"
in reply to your other comment, i think my "constant cold" was due to mucus-creating dairy products and other junk...
Permalink Reply by Clarissa on I'd like to update my thoughts about this topic.
In all honesty, I almost completely forgot about this post. I wrote this almost 2 years ago, and have to say I don't feel the same way anymore. I have been increasingly understanding the necessity of keeping myself clean. Especially for professional reasons. I have now realized I prefer to use natural soaps to wash my hands almost every time after I go to the bathroom, as well as before I prepare food for myself or anyone else. Actually, I still participate in brushing my teeth 2 times a day, flossing once a day, washing my hair every three days, and showering as often as needed. As well as using soap to clean my body. I do however, agree with the original point I had made about the chemical soaps. I'd much rather prefer to use home-made soaps, or natural soaps such as Dr. Bronner's, Aubrey's organics, etc.
I do have to say, though, this post has certainly aroused quite an interesting conversation as of late. It's funny, cause the more and more I got into hygiene, the more and more reasons I found for keeping myself clean externally as well as internally.
Peace&Love,
Clarissa
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Permalink Reply by Rock on I have been more focused in keeping the things I touch clean, I drive skiers to the mountains, have to touch their luggage and $$$, so I use the alcohol sanitizer periodically on hands, start the day with lysol type product on all surfaces I regularly touch in the van, steering wheel, shifts, all outside door handles, and radio--especially mouthpiece. Everyone has dibilitating colds, I do not even want a mild version of one.
I am NOT O/C about it, and tend to only be semi-concious of it the rest of the day, and do not obsess when I cannot clean something.
On the other hand, I'll eat something like fruit that I drop on the floor, often just wiping it, and will share a drink with those who are obviously not sick, (which really weirds my Hispanic friends out as they are not used to Caucasians treating them as same species).
I do panic if there is not a paper towel to open an inward public bathroom door, as I have observed that less than 5% of businessmen in suits wash hands after bowel movements, and other adults only slightly better, with younger generation being the most conscientious of it. (I'm impressed, I'm much older). Of course I have no clue as to the hand washing habits of women.
Chefs and cooks pretty much NEVER wash after a BM, when I complain to management, they just say that they wash as they enter kitchen (though I have established that they do not), and then put up rules that kitchen staff must remove their "whites" and hats when in toilet area (so we won't know it's the cooks???)
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