i was just having a serious discussion with my boyfriend about humans dying and the impact it causes on life. i said "one thing i dont understand.... how can a meat eater cry about a human dying.... and then sit down to a steak?" i just dont understand!
heres the difference between us.
i am a life long vegan. i have never consumed animal flesh. i have the same amount of compassion to human life to that of an animals life.
he is a life long meat eater, recently working towards being vegan. he sees human life value to be greater than animal life value.
am i off my rocker or do you feel that animal life is equally as valuable as human life?
Permalink Reply by Staci Cabutto on February 18, 2012 at 5:05pm Hehe, could always use a vegan ranting partner! XD Thanks, love!
Permalink Reply by Peter on February 18, 2012 at 5:36pm Some people I know treat their 'pets' as they do their own children. I don't like the idea of 'pets' as all too often anaimals are kept for nothing more than 'fashion'. One person I know was as upset when her cat and previously dog died as when a friend died.
I often hear people saying 'I love animals' however they continue to eat meat without any thought for the individual they are eating.
Your question is a challenging one. It's humans who place so much importance on human life in comparison to animals.
The earth is in no need of us. If humanity disappeared the earth would continue along its merry way through the galaxy. Furthermore ecosystems would recover and anyone visiting the earth in a century probably would only see some faint traces of humanity.
Permalink Reply by pradtf on February 18, 2012 at 6:10pm The earth is in no need of us. If humanity disappeared the earth would continue along its merry way through the galaxy.
this matter is mentioned several times in this thread i think.
just as it has for eons.
one illustration of the minute amount of time humans have been around is given by david attenborough (brother of richard who did the gandhi movie). if the beginning of life were to start from your shoulder and all time subsequent was the rest of your arm, humans have been around a thin scraping of your fingernail. :D
it is a humbling thought.
in friendship,
prad
Permalink Reply by Peter on February 18, 2012 at 6:45pm Humans do suffer from hubris. It's interesting to note that when humans vacate ecosystems they have an often rapid ability to recover. A good example is 'no catch reserves' where fishing for humans is off limits. Within even a decade the reserves become abundant with fish approaching something like the ecosystem was before humans began fishing in those ecosystem, although the species type may change a bit.
Permalink Reply by Justin White on February 21, 2012 at 9:15am No I believe human life is worth more than animal life. Had this same discussion with another vegan she thought as you do. I believe that as we have a greater range and depth of feeling and intellect we can experience life in a richer way than animals so the resulting loss of that life impacts the world more than the loss of a animal life. I do think that the value of a being is pretty much proportional to its sentience. This does not mean we should willfully abuse less sentient beings (for it because of our sentience that we can exercise compassion, empathy etc), but I do not believe all creatures are equally valuable, and I would sacrifice an animal life (in a hypothetical situation) to save a human life.
I think all living creatures have their own perpose, their own worth and their own reason for being here. But they have one thing in common, and that is the right to live.
Permalink Reply by Michael Conaway on February 21, 2012 at 9:51am Humans = Animals so yes lol
Permalink Reply by Justyn Levesque on February 21, 2012 at 10:02am People aren't that special
Permalink Reply by Steffi Ann on February 22, 2012 at 5:16pm this could be interesting for you:
http://www.metro.co.uk/news/world/890896-dolphins-intelligent-enoug...
Absolutely agree! xox
Permalink Reply by Riela Molinuevo on February 23, 2012 at 7:37am How can we quantify the value of other living creatures? What makes one person better than another? What makes a person different from another? A history of different causes and conditions. Some get better education and chances than others. Does that mean that the people less fortunate are worth less? No. We should love them even more passionately, because they are (like us) the children of our lacking societies.
Same with humans and animals. Both live under different causes and conditions. Does that make any of them worth more than the next? When every one and everything influences each other, it is impossible to put a worth on life, because nothing is just THAT. It is a compilation, an embodiment, of the world itself. Therefore, no one is worth more than the other.
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