the vegan dogs thread was inadvertently deleted.
it will be reconstructed here over a few days from original sources.
unfortunately these sources are not completely uptodate. a few of the latest posts have been left off because they were unrecoverable. these included a beautiful post by via and another one by ednshell about a 30 fast her dog did to recover fully from an ailment.
you'll see some posts by old friends who used to be on 30bad such as michele.
it was not possible to reconstruct the thread on 30bad because it would have required large posts with multiple entries, triggering an attack by ning's spambot which would swoop me up into exile. yes it has already happened. additionally, the posts would not come out too clearly using the 30bad mechanism because of the limited html capabilities we have as posters.
therefore the thread has been located off-site:
some other threads of similar interest with useful content are:
and of course the
also see vegan pets.
thx for your post.
it is important to realize that there is very strong nutritional grounds for your choice too. there is more than just the survey, the study and the official statement by the nutrition committee as presented in the link of the original post. the clear understanding these days is that we need to be 'nutrient specific, not feedstuffs specific'.
you can also look here for more supporting evidence:
what's good for your ethics is good for your dogs too!
My 5 yr. old Whippet is loving his new food, but my 13 yr. old border collie is now refusing to eat it. I'm bummed by Molly the border collie's refusal. She likes oatmeal though.
dogs have individual gourmet tastes just like people so you just need to find the right thing. :D
sometimes addition of things like nutritional yeast or squished pumpkin works well. alternately, you can try soaking the kibbles (some really like it that way, though some don't).
don't know what sort of kibbles you are using, but ours liked evolution for years but then loved ami in a flash! they never like the nature's way or natural life veg kibbles (i felt these were of lower quality - ami is the best we've tried, imho).
if molly likes oatmeal, you can try the hoana oatmeal recipe which you'll find in the veg pet links (i think). we prefer hoana simply because we put the ingredients in ourselves.
Hi Prad and thanks for renewing this topic, have been thinking about the thread.
I am transitioning my two dogs (5 and 6 y/o) to vegan but am not comfortable with the idea of giving them much in the way of cooked, so I am doing it mostly raw and am wondering if other folks have done/are doing this raw, as well.
with appreciation and all blessings,
i don't have experience with raw veg, but ednshell definitely does and bigG has several years (4 dogs now too!) worth so you can talk to them about it. you can find some of ednshell's dog's diet here:
(as well as some other interesting things)
Thank you Prad, will check that out.I've done lots of animal rescue over the years and have had lots of dogs. At one point they were all vegan and I think that some did not do so well on it however, it may have been because it was all cooked and also, it's complicated. With rescues, history is usually unknown, and genetics and vaccine background (and sometimes that of the parents) can be helpful information although sadly, not always what can be acted upon in a helpful way.....and so' invisible' elements can create such negative effects.
Lots of unconditional love and a low stress life are two of the most important ingredients in any diet for them. Also us. Since stress is often a precipitating factor for many declines.
Here's to love!
Reading your thread a couple of months ago reminded me that I wanted to make this change for these canine family members as I feel that my raw knowledge will make this a great option for them and yes, of course, the emotional and psychological dissonance of feeding meat is very stressful! So thanks again.
Hi Kaybee and thanks.
decades ago I did feed a group of my dogs vegan cooked, gave vegepet as a supplement , used nutritional yeast etc. I am Hoping to keep it as simple as possible, in part because if someone isn't thriving it would be easier to tweak things and see what's the dealio. One of my dogs is now getting either smoshed bananas or two poached eggs on the bottom of the bowl (transitioning away from the eggs) and if bananas, ground pumpkin seeds or some peanut butter (can't find that raw though so they will get tahini etc as well), some Health Force products, either Green Mush or vitamineral green mix powders, a few shakes of the icelandic kelp granules, a B complex, Vitamin D, some food grade diatomaceous earth and greens and maybe carrots or such that have been Vita-mixed with water, poured over the top and then all mixed up with a fork. If I don't blend the greens and any other veg, they will not digest it, those foods will be separate entities in their stools! I do give them celery and cucumbers to just chew for (high water content) crunchies and usually decorate the top of their food with small amounts of crunchies and in the morning I share apples with them and offer to share other fruit as well. They have yet to reject anything: it may be against their principles!