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Hey guys,

Iḿ quite new to this forum and lifestyle. Now I got the first question. :)

About 3 month ago I started the lifestyle. Before I was eating SAD for 10 years before that I was vegetarian (in a SAD way) for 3 years and stopped because of low b12 (think it was) what I didn`t know it was. Just felt anemic.

Before starting this  lifestyle  I got a bloodtest. And the results really pushed me over the edge. I was always quite skinny as I do 1-3 hours of sport every day and have physical work (physiotherapist) 76kg and 186cm tall. My cholesterin was 185 mg/dl with a  LDL/HDL-quotient of 2.7 at age of 34. My mother got 3 stants now  and my grandmother died of a heart attack. Both did and do Sport every day.

So immediately I changed to Hi carb vegan coocked (actually during the day raw and some coocked starches to the sallad). I m doing great so long. My average speed for 1h cycling rose from 30 to 34 km/h riding in the wind. Love the new tastes and the food. :) 

Now I got my new bloodtests. 


The cholesterin dropped from 185 to 157 mg/dl. wich is great. The b12 from 336 pg/ml to 297 pg/ml despite taking pills. So I ll get shots now...

But surprisingly my Uric acid rose from 6.1 mg/dl to 6.7 mg/dl which should be critical. My doctor could not explain and said we should wait for the next test.

Does anybody have any Ideas? Is it a detox or some starches (eat hardly any lentils or beans)?

Thanks a lot and Best,

Olly 



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I never heard of that. I would think by six months or a ful year passes the uric acid should come down again on its own?

Hey

Are you eating plenty of fruits high in vitamin C? Not all fruits are that high in vitamin C. This is a nutrient that helps increase elimination of uric acid via urine http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18464304

Are you also drinking plenty of water?

Take care

Adam x

Good peace of Information. Will definatly increase my orange consume. Perhaps add something else.

But I don't think its the reason as I eat 5 Oranges and 20 Bananas every day.... at least more vitamin c than when I was eating sad. :)

Yes, I'm drinking enough water to piss clear...

Thanks!

Are you taking oral b12 capsules/tablets that you swallow, or sublingual ones that you absorb under the tongue?

Take care

Adam x

I took tablats. But my doctor said she will give me shots in the iv.

Hey Oliver

Well, that is up to you. your levels are not dangerously low, so I would personally consider sublingual supplements instead, which are better absorbed than the ones you swallow, since they absorb into the bloodstream under the tongue without the need for them to go through the digestive system.

Take care

Adam x

ok, I`ll think about it.

Thanks,

Olly

Hello Oliver, 

Sorry about your symptoms and I have some thoughts and ideas to share.  

In the USA, your b12 limits are still within normal range.  On a low fat diet where the blood is clean and the body can optimally assimilate nutrients, this may be ok.  Taking a supplement is your choice at this point, not an emergency although you may want to moniter the situation and have the blood checked again in six months.  

In the mean time, one way to maintain b12 or even increase levels is to eat about 1-2 pounds or about 2 heads of lettuce greens a day.  Lettuce greens and nuts contain cobalt which is the element in b12 we actually need.  Our bodies will utilize this cobalt and our gut bacteria consume it as well producing some of our b12 needs.  

Read more:  Benefits of  Lettuce Greens

Lettuce greens will also help alkalize the body and may assist in reducing your uric acid levels. 

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Now, onto the uric acid discussion:  Uric acid may or may not accompany conditions like kidney stone formation and or kidney problems, gout and gouty arthritis, and arthritis.  

Uric acid is a chemical created when the body breaks down substances called purines. Purines are found in some foods and drinks, such as liver, anchovies, mackerel, dried beans and peas and beer.

Most uric acid dissolves in blood and travels to the kidneys, where it passes out in urine. If your body produces too much uric acid or doesn't remove enough if it, you can get sick. High levels of uric acid in the body is called hyperuricemia.

Early stages of blood uric acid may be asymptomatic, but if left untreated could lead to gout.

Gout is a common, painful form of arthritis. It causes swollen, red, hot and stiff joints. Gout occurs when uric acid builds up in your blood. This happens if your body produces extra acid or does not eliminate enough, or if you eat too many foods with purines, such as liver and dried beans. Pseudogout has similar symptoms and is sometimes confused with gout. However, it is caused by calcium phosphate, not uric acid.

Often, gout first attacks your big toe. It can also attack ankles, heels, knees, wrists, fingers and elbows.

You are more likely to get gout if you

  • Are a man
  • Have family member with gout
  • Drink alcohol

At first, gout attacks usually get better in days. Eventually, attacks last longer and occur more often. Uric acid buildup can lead to kidney stones. Untreated gout can cause permanent joint and kidney damage. You can treat gout with medicines.

LIVING WITH GOUT (Ref Here)

Gout affects quality of life both by the episodic attacks and potential for chronic arthritis. Compliance with medical regimens is critical. Lifestyle changes may make it easier to manage this lifetime disease. Suggestions include gradual weight loss, avoidance of alcohol and, reduced consumption of fructose‐containing beverages and foods high in purines.

Uric acid can be caused by a diet high in purines.  Purines are in high protein foods such as animal products, nuts, and whole grains and these should be avoided.  

A diet high in fruits and vegetables is recommended even by conventional medical standards.  Exceptions to these might be avocados, mushrooms, spinach, asparagus, and cauliflower. Potatoes are also moderately high in purine.  

Ironically, here @BaD, we caution people against overeating avos because of fat content, and mushroom.  

We caution people agains eating root veggies like carrots and cruciferous veggies like spinach, broccoli, and cauliflower. Some of our members have had problems such as sour stomach, stomach pains, diarrhea, constipation, gas, bloating, acne and skin eruptions, possible hair thinning and loss, blood in stools, and or slowed digestion which makes it difficult to eat enough calories during the day. 

This is a list of naughty and nice fruits and lettuce greens:
http://rawschool.com/best-raw-foods/

 http://www.livestrong.com/article/366069-low-purine-diet-for-gout-p...

To control and lower levels of uric acid in the body, eat a low fat diet of (raw) fruits and lettuce greens.  

Avoid high purine foods already mentioned.  For more reasons to avoid starchy foods like grains and breads, tubers, legumes, starchy vegetables, and other processed starches, please read these two blog posts:

Starchy Foods Defined

Starchy Foods vs Fruits n Greens

Also, be sure to drink 3-4 quarts of water a day to flush out the uric acid and to stay hydrated.  

Not only is this our recommendation for everyone, it is recommended by MayoClinic here:

http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/gout-diet/MY01137/METHOD=print

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My personal experience, I too have suffered from a past  history of kidney stones and have a damaged bum kidney.  The same dietary recommendations I have shared here are in agreement with conventional science, 30BaD guidelines, and they work for me.  

Good luck and peace, PK

Thanks a lot, this gives a new light to the uric acid problem. 

Befor going hi carb vegan I had to pee very often. It even got better by eating lot of fruits like watermelon and drinking water. Perhaps this is an other symptom of kidney problems.

best,

Olly

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