I've got an interesting problem. I have not been able to fall asleep before 4 am in over 3 months. I'm starting to get a little crazy from it. The thing is I went raw March 1st. I also quit drinking that day. I was a severe alcoholic for 15 years prior to that day. Now I cannot sleep. I was unaware that insomnia is a problem for people who quit drinking after being drunk for so long. I have recently talked to several recovering alcoholics and they all say the same thing, it is going to take at least a year to get the sleeping thing worked out.
Does anyone have any suggestions? I am suffering and it is really getting me down. I want to stay on track with this 80.10.10 thing and I do not want to start drinking or doing drugs again, but I'm starting to loose it. It is starting to effect everything in my life. Everything else has been going so well with the diet and exercise, but I can't maintain like this.
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Permalink Reply by Mango-Man on That may not necessarily work. I had sleeping issues that became apparent shortly after starting the lifestyle around 1.5 years ago. It did take many months until I could actually fall asleep. I was not a drug or alcohol addict, my hormones just needed to normalise and I was used to staying up until 24::00 or later every night after college so trying to sleep at 9pm or 10pm did take some months to adapt to.
If you cannot sleep there are so many factors that could be the cause. I can assure you a lack of physical activity is not the case. Even if you fast and do nothing, you will sleep at 6 hours every night IN my experience.
Permalink Reply by Resonance77 on Thanks! It has been a wonderful and freeing 3 months! I hope to have many more.
As far as eating goes, I was having trouble at first, but now I can get 3000 calories down in a day. Mostly bananas and strawberries and dates for breakfast and lunch. I might snack on some apples or oranges in between. I have a big veggie salad for dinner and a fresh green juice. I have been really paying attention to my food combining and eating mostly mono meals, giving time to digest in between meals.
I have a quart of water first thing in the morning, sometimes with a squeeze of lemon. After that, I fill up 4 quart water bottles and drink those through out the day. That is the minimum, usually I'm filling up a couple more quart bottles. I pee clear and often.
I usually stretch in the morning and do some push ups to get going. I have been trying to get bike rides in every day. I could barely go 6 miles at first and now I'm up to 15.25 miles a day and doing that in under an hour. I try pull ups every day. I couldn't do a quarter pull up at first, now I can do one and a half and a few quarter pull ups. I have also been inconsistently lifting weights but I really don't know what I'm doing when it comes to that. I am hoping that my weightlifting son will want to help me with the weight training some day. He is 16 and isn't a big fan of hanging out with his old man.
Anyway, that is where I'm at with that stuff. It keeps getting easier to eat larger quantities. Hopefully I can get up to the 4 - 5000 calorie range without feeling like I'm going to puke or need to lay down for an hour after trying to eat 2000 calories at one sitting.
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Permalink Reply by magicreative on Listen to me -
Most people here are against the use of herbs -
but this is exactly the type of situation where there are indeed extremely helpful -
just think of herbs as edible plants with healing intelligence to them -
they have strong tastes and strong effects which makes them improper as foods as such
but that does not make them bad.
I have helped alcoholics recover using Kava Kava - research it - it will help you TREMENDOUSLY -
Another way to go would be to combine about 750 mgs of Ashwagandha with about 400 mgs of Licorice ( powders from banyan.com ) about an hour before bed - you will sleep great - and rebuild your nervous system with these two herbs. Also add about 300 mgs of Jatamansi if you can get it . . .
The " Deep Rest " formulas at mapi.com are a better choice than even these listed above but they are expensive.
Best -
Permalink Reply by Resonance77 on Hey magicreative, thank you. I am not too keen on using herbs but I do agree with you that in some situations they can be beneficial. I had a friend recommend kava kava just last night. I will look into these suggestions. I'm willing to give this a shot.
I am also trying to tone down my environment earlier. The situation I run into when I shut everything down and just lay in bed before I am tired is I never really fall asleep. I will lay there for an hour and then snooze for 20 minutes and wake up for a half hour and snooze for a half hour and wake up again and this goes on all night. I've found it more productive to just stay up until I feel I can fall asleep, which is usually between 3 and 4 and then I can get some sound rest. I will sleep for 8 hours straight. The trouble is that sleeping that late every day interferes with my work. I am self employed, so I set my own schedule, but getting up in the afternoon limits the amount of productive hours I have to get work done. Sometimes there are things I have to do in the morning. On those occasions, I just stay up all night. Then I am dog tired all day, until around 8 pm, then I am wide awake for some reason and can't sleep. It is driving me crazy.
It doesn't seem to matter how much exercise I get either. Maybe I need to push myself further. I've been really stepping it up. 3 and a half months ago I was 50 pounds heavier, a flight of stairs was a heavy workout. Now I'm riding further and faster than I ever have. I did try jogging a week and a half ago, sort of. I can't even go a mile and I was incredibly sore for days. It was hard for me to walk on the second day after and took a few more days to not be in pain. I might need to start out slower, maybe a quarter mile a couple times a week. I just don't want to burn out and quit or hurt myself. I think I am at a good pace right now.
Permalink Reply by Resonance77 on Magicreative,
I have ordered 1lb of powdered Kava root from this site - www.konakavafarm.com
I also ordered the 60 count bottle of the Deep Rest tablets from www.mapi.com
Could you possibly give me some pointers on proper use of the Kava or tips to maximize benefit for my purposes?
Mods,
If this discussion is in any way a violation of site rules, I apologize sincerely and I would understand completely without any hard feelings if my post is removed.
Permalink Reply by magicreative on Good Man -
Follow the instructions on the Deep Rest bottle -
You can make a Kava Kava drink out of the powdered root by mixing 4 tablespoons of the powder COLD with water or orange juice - mix it in a blender - then strain through a strainer or cloth mesh - They have these instructions somewhere on their website - that is where I got these instructions a while ago.
That's real good Hawaiian Awa ( that's what Hawaiians call Kava ) you just bought -
Do not make a hot tea out of Kava.
The Kava Kava powder makes a good relaxing drink. However, lately I've taken to using the Kava Kava pills from Herb Pharm Company called PharmaKava capsules. They are sometimes more convenient than making the drinks. However - the drinks have a charm all their own too because you can just sip on it like wine.
Sweet Dreams ! Best -
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